Everybody likes to play the insider, with hopes of being the one to say "I told you so."

I'll never understand people who have worked hard in an industry they'd have to be passionate about to be in the privileged position to know some secrets, who then feel the need to play the big I Am on internet forums. If that's what makes their job rewarding then they probably chose the wrong career.

Exactly what I was saying to him. I don't understand it, I mean what's worse is that if there is no Shenmue HD announced for a while yet, he gets to essentially deny responsibility due to the wording of his articles/tweets/posts. All the while, the ones who suffer the most are Sega, YSNET, even Yu Suzuki (due to how fickle the public can be), as people look to assert blame and vent frustration at a no show. A responsibility to an outlets reader doesn't exist anymore. Articles like this are not written for a reader first and foremost, they are written for self gratification at most.

As E3 comes closer, I can't help feel that any excitement I feel is turning into nerves more and more. If there is nothing shown, both in an update form or at E3, I will be very concerned for an inevitable backlash that would more than likely follow. I sincerely hope they realise that.

Very true.

Regardless of E3, it really does feel like the journey is almost at its end. The re-release will happen, I think it's safe enough now to ask, "when" and not "if". In typical fashion, it's going to take the most effort now to try and remain patient to getting over the line. It's within touching distance, and weeks feel like decades right now.

Oh no no no, I agree completely. I meant "be patient", in the context of if E3 comes and goes without a HD announcement, to just remain patient and calm. Keep doing what everyone is doing with campaigning etc. But just to not fly off the handle and deem the whole thing over.

Take from it what you will, but Shenmue 3 was at a rough 25% completion mark in September 2016.

On that note, catch you in the streams. Enjoy E3

When you get information from Yu and the producer himself about Shenmue related content appearing at a gaming event, and it turns out not to happen, you learn the hard way not to take anyone's word about when or where footage of this game will appear. Plans change, and it can be upsetting. Frustrating even. At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their opinion. But at the same time, everyone should realise this is going to come out at some stage, and that will be a glorious time, so until then, all i can ask is to try and see positives whenever you can, and also try to remain patient. This is a long process, and none of us are going anywhere.

As for the video, i just shrugged my shoulders. It is what it is, and there are positives there. As the person said, they were testing for polygon dents and movements. Thats what i want from them. Thorough testing of all movement variations. He wont be doing jumping jacks in the game for gods sake. I thought it was great, watching the characters various muscle elements flex and expand with the relevant movements. Theres going to be fighting in this after all. As for the look, hes just a made up skeleton with a prototype shell essentially. There will be lots more detail added so im not concerned about that. His clothes looked cool too, as Switch pointed out in his update.

One thing to think/hope for is that since a delay announcement is inevitable now, they will need to counter that announcement with something to give us some positivity along with it, so a trailer may be included then. Perhaps Gio told them that was a better plan, or perhaps he wanted Shenmue at E3 and YSNET said no. Either way, im over E3 now, and looking forward to what the summer has in store overall for Shenmue.
As i always resort back to... one day we will finish Shenmue 3, and be praying to go back to the exciting times of monthly updates when we didnt have a clue what was coming. Its hard in life to stop and take stock of the now, but try to with the Shenmue 3 development process, because, one day in the blink of an eye, it will all be over and life will be very different.

Posting issues aside, i am now the owner of the holy grail missing from my Shenmue collection.

Bring up other games all you like, but this is Shenmue's aesthetic and arguably always has been.
I don't even know why you're here if you want Shenmue to be Yakuza that bad.


Wow. Just wow...Just put your own "fact" and question the user for beeing here....this is not the right way to react to critism or other opinions. He does not want Shenmue be Yakuza. He wants the character style of Yakuza and I do agree.


I'm glad that Spaghetti is not a mod here. He's the type of person that would ban someone for having a different opinion than his, and then forcefeed his own opinions as absolute truth.


But to be clear I didn't write that post. That was Spaghetti who unfairly attacked my reasons for being on Shenmue Dojo.

Sorry to disappoint you, but Spaghetti is being made a moderator this evening due to all of his hard work put in over the years, his ability to make himself coherent, and with all of the bullshit ive read in this topic, more help is needed.



Please. We don't need you and your subjective statements parading as objectivity. Keep yourself from telling me that this is the aesthetic that presents the game I grew up with and have been following at worst as long as you have. And get your head out of your ass telling people that they either agree with you or belong elsewhere.

Dont speak to anyone like this on these boards again. I wont say it twice. I made it clear in another topic that there will be zero tolerance towards over emotion during E3 season, and 30 day bans will be issued immediately.

Still, being attacked for having a different opinion about the game and being told to leave is an act out of emotion and unwarranted. That's great that he's being promoted to moderator, but I still vehemently disagree with his attacks on me, and my love for Shenmue. I won't go any further than that and will not derail the subject at hand. Carry on.


If i crack your kneecaps in public with a baseball bat, thats an attack. If i type messages threatening your family repeatedly on a message board? Attack. Arguing over Yakuza vs Shenmue, and what looks better or should look like on a message forum, well...thats just a sign that you need to take a breath, open a new tab and go pull one off over some porn. Not an attack. Skip the drama fellas.

So then your rationale as a mod is to make the situation worse by calling posts in an already tense thread bullshit? Under your own rules you should get that 30 day ban. You have made the situation worse by threatening bans without justification when you're just as emotional as the people you threaten. If you're going to make threats and ultimatums state the base line. If you're going to moderate then don't call posts bullshit without stating what you find to be bullshit. You talk about how people aren't comprehending people's posts, but you are doing an awful job explaining your posts, making them easy to be misinterpreted. As a staff member you can and should do better.


Sorry but who in the blue hell are you to question how anyone moderates these boards?? How many times have you came back apologising after your multiple outbursts?? Who threatened to go to the press to spread the word about how awful, and in dire straits the game was? Who asked ME to ban YOU for your own good? Who even asks that! Who created alternate accounts?? Who verbally abused people on these forums? You were lucky to still be on these boards at all. But after everything, and the by balls you have been given you are gonna try and stir this shit beyond what it already is? Ok then. Honestly you have exhausted every life you had around here. As already established on multiple occasions, you are a very toxic person, and that's not happening here anymore.

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In the interests of transparency here, this was less than 2 weeks ago:

Himuro, please.... please don't take this the wrong way, but remember PSX just 6 months ago. You, among others, were a lot more venomous and toxic after the no show at that event. A lot of which, I took the brunt of. That was hard to take. You also were making threats, to go to the press etc. Again, don't take that the wrong way by today's context, but that's the facts. By all means, look forward to E3, and get yourself uber hyped if you want! Go nuts, but I'm asking you now, keep an open mind and as Jibby said, there could be absolutely NOTHING Shenmue related to come out of the Sony Conference, and the whole of E3. You are really building yourself up here, where everyone else is excited, but also voicing caution. Learn from the past. If there is a Shenmue no show, keep sensible and don't get negatively emotional again. That goes for everyone.

After PSX, lessons were learned, and anyone spouting garbage about going to the press, making claims of stolen money etc we will have a strict zero policy this time round. Temp bans will be issued without reasoning first if we feel it's beyond trying. Himuro, you are an example of that, where at the time you fly off the handle and throw the toys out of the pram, but then after a week or two, you apologise and things calm down once clarity sets in.

So this time, in the event that E3 is another PSX washout, by all means voice an opinion. But do it constructively and respectfully. Remember Yu and his staff are working 24 hours a day, sleeping at the office to get us out a game that's worthy of the Shenmue brand, on a shoestring budget. If they feel that E3 isn't the right time, respect that, and remember your 4 wude.

Also Peter, I have changed since then. During that time, I had a lot going on in my life and was actually kind of hoping to see Shenmue III. I was emotional and high strung. The one thing I had to look forward to was Shenmue III at PSX. When it wasn't there, I just kind of lost it. 2016 was a bad year for me and I took it out on a lot of things. I've since worked on my life and things are going pretty great. So if Shenmue III isn't at E3 I wouldn't expect a PSX repeat from me. I doubt it'll happen but if it does, please ban me for two weeks for my own sake.


Now, then. Back on topic please ladies and gents. The drama is over.

I just submitted my vote in the poll. It was an easy choice

I sent ShenSun a PM explaining the Dojo side of it, so hopefully it sheds some more light on the issue.

This was all dealt with at lunchtime privately and civilised so why it's mud slinging in public now, I don't know.

Still, being attacked for having a different opinion about the game and being told to leave is an act out of emotion and unwarranted. That's great that he's being promoted to moderator, but I still vehemently disagree with his attacks on me, and my love for Shenmue. I won't go any further than that and will not derail the subject at hand. Carry on.


If i crack your kneecaps in public with a baseball bat, thats an attack. If i type messages threatening your family repeatedly on a message board? Attack. Arguing over Yakuza vs Shenmue, and what looks better or should look like on a message forum, well...thats just a sign that you need to take a breath, open a new tab and go pull one off over some porn. Not an attack. Skip the drama fellas.


It's not? The topic is the update. We are discussing the update. Everyone in here is. I was a bit aggressive in my statement and I apologize if it offended anyone, but my sentiment that negative opinions are valid remains and he is incredibly dismissive in his rhetoric. You saying that you are making him a mod because of the "bullshit in this topic" is a bit hypocritical in that light.

I'm not going to get into a petty running around in circles with you. It's quite clear what I said. Go back and read it. Don't go down the road of, "oh well that's what it sounded like", or, "that's what you meant" with me. I said Spaghetti was being made a moderator due to the years of hard work he has out in, not just here, but across various sites promoting Shenmue in a positive light. I also said because he can conduct himself in a coherent manner, and I also said that it was because we needed more help in here because of a lot of bullshit that's been typed. Just so we are clear, definition of bullshit: hyped up posts because of negative emotions at a CHARACTER TEST video for polygon dents, and no Shenmue 3 at E3.

Clear enough? Good. It ends there.

Lurking for now, but I have not seen a single piece of this thread have anything remotely worth moderating? Why is what ChiefNeo and Darksniper says considered to be hostile and not Dojo worthy but Peter is allowed to call pieces of the conversation bullshit? I thought we were supposed to be talking about this topic without emotion, but Peter is allowed to call it bullshit. Pardon me for asking, but I'm really confused on what the line is?


Really? After the message you sent me this morning, you think you can lurk back in and mix it up? If you can't remove yourself from the boards like you said you would, I can happily take care of that for you?

I'm going to make this crystal clear one last tine:

I made it clear in another topic that there will be zero tolerance towards over emotion during E3 season, and 30 day bans will be issued immediately


We can only go by the material that has been given to us from YS Net. From the beginning the character models of Shenmue III have looked "off". The only reason why I can give you (Peter) the benefit of the doubt of calling the debate over this "bullshit" in your words is because you were fortunate enough to see some things thats the majority of us have not and that will naturally alter your opinion of what we're debating over. Still we're just going off of what we see right now.

I trust your opinion on what you have said about Shenmue III after what Yu Suzuki has shown you. If they were ready to unveil the game last year as originally intended, its clear that some serious work has been done that is consistent with what you've seen.

Either way, the only thing to do is wait and see and reserve further judgement until then.

Right, but it's not about giving ME the benefit of the doubt. This is what I don't understand at all. All of the poeple in here moaning and complaining, are not giving Yu Suzuki the benefit of the doubt!
And on what basis does this come from? Have you seen the tests of the original Shenmue and compared them to the finished product? No. You are comparing a finished product to one that clearly has marked on the tin, "work in progress". Surely you get that now? All the negativity surrounding this update is essentially unwarranted because it's test material, and far away from the look of the finished product. We are not supposed to see this stuff, and wouldn't if it was a regular game being developed. As someone said before I seen whilst reading, YSNET cannot win here. If they show nothing, they get slated. They show test materials they get slated. How about giving them a break and some praise for the work they are doing instead of going off on one is my point.

Everyone has their own opinions, I just use the basis of the release Shenmue games to base my opinion in a more positive light, because being negative about this will get people nowhere. If anything, based on experience, you will just have egg on your face when the game does turn out to be good, and a far cry from these tech videos we currently get.

BlueMue wrote: That video itself isn't too bad actually but the title sure is clickbait garbage.

Exactly what I said last night when I watched it. Just the title is pish.

Despite whatever Shenmue 3 throws at us, i love the people in chat who make these stream what they are. Thank you everyone!


Also mind blowing that anyone can be watching in any type of environment. Even broadcasting live in an office! Thanks for the photo Garvello!

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Good to see the positivity and hype still coming from the man after the update

Was literally about to post what Sono said. If you have patience, wait until HD remasters are announced and the price will drop.

Damn Sonikku. Hope you are ok!

Some disappointing news, but for the greater good! Yu Suzuki has announced that Shenmue 3 will be delayed until at least the second half of 2018.



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I am actually excited as hell about this. Now it feels like a full on proper development schedule, and not a rushed indie schedule. Great decision!

Ok, so... not to be the instigator of hype here but;

- Gio Corsi and Yu Suzuki pose with the original game for a photo
- there are 2 pieces of bad news 9 days apart, both saying Shenmue 3 will not be at E3, as well as now a flat out full year delay.
- announcing the delay 4 days before E3 with not a single image, character model, or trailer.
- nothing offered from YSNET to "cushion the blow". Surely they knew these setbacks would disappoint fans in some way.

Strategy?

Sega..... It's over to you. [-o<

Sega..... It's over to you.
That's never a comforting thought.

That's true, but even though I am not fully up to date with what they are doing regularly, the soundbytes coming from them have been positive, and backed up by the releases of Bayonetta and Vanquish. They have been slowly making the right calls lately.

The output of support and love across the Shenmue community today is what makes it great. No arguing over character models, look, direction... just Shenmue

Trust will be important for Suzuki's next projects (including Shenmue 4)

Don't get your hopes up for a 4th Shenmue...

Shenmue 3 had an amazing announcement back at E3 two years ago, but since then it was nothing but a disaster in almost every aspect, contrary to what we (the diehard fans) are trying to convince themselves with.

The Shenmue 3 project (probably due to budget constraints) has been left in the hands of noobs from the very beginning, it started with a horrible Kickstarter/marketing campaign done by AJ, then it has been turned into a guinea pig in the hands of noob mostly-unknown developers with almost no real experience whatsoever, and consequently, Shenmue 3 project is currently being used to "learn" how to use UE4 techniques and modern development tools. Even Suzuki-san hasn't made a console game since 2003's Outrun 2 on the first Xbox, and as you may (or may not) know, game development has gone a very looooooong way since.

Finally, "if" the game is released by the end of 2018 as promised (and that's a very big IF), UE4 technology will probably be outdated, especially that those new-learners won't be able to get the most out of UE4 anyways; Moreover, by the end of 2018, PS4 will be at the end of its life-cycle, and PS5 would have already been announced and even released, which will make Shenmue 3 look/feel already outdated, and I won't discuss the option of moving the Shenmue 3 project to PS5 because that will also be an even worse disaster...

Shenmue I & II were majestic games, beautifully realised through the state-of-the-art techniques of their time, and despite some gameplay hiccups here and there, both games were fantastically mind blowing journeys. I don't think any budget indie title can live up to the legacy of Shenmue I & II, and that will ultimately affect the future of the series, or what's left of it anyways...

The only thing I can think of to bring some light to the end of Shenmue 3's dark tunnel is some big company to step in and properly fund/manage the project, which hasn't happened in 14 years and looks highly unlikely to happen now.

So again, don't get your hopes up for a 4th Shenmue ....

All opinions are welcome, but keep insulting the development team of Shenmue when they are not here to defend themselves and you won't be around here for much longer, on top of spreading information that I can tell you right now is either very sorely mistaken on your part, or just fathomly made up by yourself in the name of trying poorly to troll.

You show up once a month and spew your negative bile all over the place which does nothing for me but make me feel sorry for you. No one agrees with you, or cares quite frankly.

WADDYA BUYIN?



Right.

I am a huge avocate of communication so I am gonna try here and not get pissed off at what I am sure you would agree, is your repetitive posting on a semi regular basis where you give your opinion, which is mostly negative.

Instead of me waffling on myself, which I would be the frist to admit I am completely guilty of, I will start small. Can I ask you if there is anything positive you have an opinion of, regarding the past 2 years?

I have responses to your post, but that can come later. For now, I just want to see some positivity here from yourself, based on the assumption that the reason you are here, like the rest of us, is because at the end of it all, we have a love and a respect for this series and it's creator.

You're totally right Peter, my opinion was (and still is) mostly negative, and that makes me feel really sad and frustrated ...
Shenmue I & II not only changed me as a gamer, but also changed my entire life and my carrier as well, those two games taught me how to be as close to perfection as possible in every aspect, I appreciated how Suzuki-san back then went way beyond everyone else in terms of realism, audio/visual design, software engineering, code optimisation, etc ...
That seemed to have raised my expectations so high for Shenmue 3, that I won't feel satisfied with anything less that perfect, and I sincerely hope this is still achievable with the resources available for Shenmue 3 right now...

When the Shenmue 3 project was announced, I jumped off my couch with excitement and almost broke my leg, I backed up the project seconds after the Kickstarter page went live, and I never regretted it ...

I want Shenmue 3 to be the best game ever made, not only because it's my most anticipated game of all time, but also Shenmue 3 will most certainly determine the fate of this fantastic series, I could never forget how the commercial outcome of Shenmue I & II had affected the future of Shenmue and I don't want to ever relive that nightmare again...

I'm here simply because this Dojo is THE place to be for us diehard Shenmue fans from all around the globe, not only because I personally have a love and respect to the series and to its creator, but also because Shenmue to me is much more than the best gaming experience I have ever had, and guess what? We're finally getting a third one sometime in the future and maybe HD remastered versions of the previous ones too, which I sincerely hope it'll end up making all my negativity sound like total nonsense, and that will make me feel so happy that I was wrong all along ...

Ok cool. This is a good post which i can read and get an understanding of your thought process and where you are coming from. Im a little busy prepping tonights stream, but i promise i will respond to this.

yes but there is a limit to money so how are they going to pay for an extra year unless they are cutting elsewhere? how hard is that to grasp? anyone with any idea of budgeting knows how that works. so either they have a very big budget without any limitations (let's hope) or stuff will be cut from the game some way.

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I can see how people can be worried about finances, but think about it. It's not as if they are running low, announce a delay, and then say, "sure we will worry about that later". The calculations will have been done, YSNET have an admin team, covering accounts. They will have worked out how long they can delay the game and keep/hire more manpower to get this game made.

Then we have Shibuya Productions, so privately who knows if they have been given more money. That won't be public, so it all boils down to your attitude about something you don't know. You can either be positive and have faith, or negative and speculate about this project being in dire straits. If you choose the latter, I can't retort to that because I literally couldn't put myself in that mindset to understand. Nor would I want to. Choose happiness.

Over 10 years it took, but my collection is finally.... Finally complete. The unboxing I did live on episode 14 of the Dojos Shenmue 2 playthrough, which is on our YouTube channel.

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This weeks podcast seen the guys give their percentage chance on the likelihood of Shenmue HD being revealed by Sony on Monday.

Brandon Jones - 60%
Daniel Bloodworth - 70%
Kyle Bosman - 80%
Michael Huber - 100%

*bows infront of a legend.

Semi concrete rumors coming out from Reddit now about what Bluepoint have been working on, and to be revealed on Monday:



For anyone who still thought they would be the ones behind a HD Shenmue.

The HD Remasters are not going to be announced at this E3, and probably ever . Hope you guys realize it before the crushing disappointment tonight...

Why do you think the remasters will never come out?

Because Shenmue 3's big moment at E3 is 2 years old, and in those 2 years we didn't get the slightest clue about the remasters being in production (not 1 leak, not 1 pic, nothing, zero), aside from some guy on Neogaf fucking about in a thread.

If Sega doesn't make the remasters during what is arguably the best period they'll ever have for Shenmue's popularity (between the KS announcement and Shen 3 release), when will they ever make them?

I understand the lack of faith from anyone. Heck I sometimes feel the same because ya know.... Sega.

But I've tried over the past few weeks to word my posts as best I can, to try and give you guys hints as to what a few people behind the scenes either know, or are at least aware of. My name may be green and I am just seen as someone who steps in when conversations go sideways around here, but rest assured that's not the case at all. Behind the scenes, I work endlessly developing contacts, relationships and try to get a feel as best I can in regards to what's happening with Shenmues future. This ranges from industry employees, journalists, and even Awesome Japan and YSNET on occasion.

I don't keep information to myself either, I also share what I find out with certain people I trust and feel should know within the community. Anything I hear ahead of time, I use to get ready from a community standpoint. Write a post and set up the mindset of how to present that. That trust goes a long way, and shows that not all of us want to run and post what would be considered a leak, on NeoGaf or to a media website. I hold Shenmue very close to my heart and that of course includes the integrity of both the game itself and it's creators.

In regards to Shenmue HD, I have tried to point you guys in the direction of positivity. You don't have to listen to me, and be as skeptical all you want, but rest assured my positivity doesn't come from a fanboy passion based on hopes and dreams alone. I take what I hear and base my aspirations on that. Whilst I protect the information and their sources on the one hand, i also try and be as reassuring as I can to you guys on the other.

I have said before to forget Blitworks. Also, it's very.... Very simply a question of WHEN, and not IF Shenmue HD comes along. It may not be tonight at Sony's conference. But it will come. Keep the faith.

Hey guys, technically first post but regular viewer and lurked on the site since about 2005 probably.

Decided I would register tonight after that fantastic stream and although e3 was a bit of a downer what a journey we've been on and a huge thank you to Peter for giving me something to look forward to every week for the past half a year!

Can't wait to continue with the streams, whoever takes them on, and keep up to date with you all.

You are so very welcome!


The streams will be updated, i will be keeing an eye on them from a distance, but you are in good hands! Shenmue content on a constant basis is what i wanted from this, and a place for people to hangout. That will continue.

All opinions are welcome, but keep insulting the development team of Shenmue when they are not here to defend themselves and you won't be around here for much longer, on top of spreading information that I can tell you right now is either very sorely mistaken on your part, or just fathomly made up by yourself in the name of trying poorly to troll.

You show up once a month and spew your negative bile all over the place which does nothing for me but make me feel sorry for you. No one agrees with you, or cares quite frankly.

I don't think I insulted any members of the development team by saying they lack the level of experience needed for a special project like Shenmue 3, especially that any kind of insult to anyone won't be something the community (including myself) would ever appreciate.
On the other hand, Neilo, which is listed as the main developer of Shenmue 3, was founded in 2010 in Japan, and since then, they only developed/released ONE rhythm mobile japan-only game (Orgarhythm was released in 2012 for PSVita and Android) Source . And you can check the full list of the games developed by Suzuki-san to know that his last console game was released in 2003 on the original Xbox; Moreover, the horrible Twitch streams done by AJ alongside many badly-photoshopped officially released images also indicate that they're not professionally done and that's not even close to the level of quality of Shenmue I and II.

I show up once a month indeed mostly alongside the monthly updates, and I try to be realistic with my opinion based on what I see instead of what I dream of, and or course you and everyone else are entitled to totally disagree with everything I said or will ever say ...

Right.

I am a huge avocate of communication so I am gonna try here and not get pissed off at what I am sure you would agree, is your repetitive posting on a semi regular basis where you give your opinion, which is mostly negative.

Instead of me waffling on myself, which I would be the frist to admit I am completely guilty of, I will start small. Can I ask you if there is anything positive you have an opinion of, regarding the past 2 years?

I have responses to your post, but that can come later. For now, I just want to see some positivity here from yourself, based on the assumption that the reason you are here, like the rest of us, is because at the end of it all, we have a love and a respect for this series and it's creator.

I've been saying for 10 years and i'll say it again; there won't be a shenmue hd rerelease. not ever. can't believe so many people here get their hopes up based on nothing. why would sega re-release these games? answer that question. there is no reason. hell even square had to bend backwards to do hd rereleases of final fantasy 10 (and now 12) which actually was a commercial monster success unlike shenmue. and shenmue is more expensive to rerelease as well.

Im really not a told you so person, and i have a dislike for people who are. But for this one time, i will happily say a big fuck you when the HD remake is indeed announced, after all the years of having to read your negativity both concerning Shenmue 3, as well as HD remakes.

Of course, when the HD remakes are announced, you will probably bitch and moan about them too since, ya know, thats what you do. Why change now, eh?

If there is one person within the community whos work gets overlooked, and doesnt get nowhere near enough praise as he should, its Kiske.

There are a lot of people who do great work for Shenmue, but he really is one of the silent heroes since Shenmue 3 became a reality. His passion is unmatched, and his ideas and support across all of the Shenmue community sites is something that is to be absolutely commended.

Just wanted to give him is due live and respect.

Bravo sir, and thank you for so much hard work! =D> =D> =D> =D>

2nd Timex T43371
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Is the Timex watch really worth that much? It doesn't seem to be official merchandise.

It's definitely not worth anything like $350 to me. [-X Even if it wasn't scratched up.

Also it has that upside down and incorrect wording all around the ring on the front.
As I've said, there was a model produced with the correct writing on that ring.
For me this is the true Shenmue watch - the one the developers put in the game and obviously the most accurate looking. There's no point in me settling for another version because I'd still end up looking again.
For that reason I'm not at all interested in this ebay model, or the Ltd Edition Shenmue watch which has the same problem.

The "official merchandise" thing doesn't bother me. It's like if they brought out BluMue's Hitachi TRQ-298 after it had already been in production, but screwed up with wrong, upside-down wording, then slapped a Shenmue logo on it. I know which one I'd want.

I'm almost certain "my" watch was the early model and they later changed the wording, because I've seen a promo picture of the Ltd Edition watch. It showed a box with a picture of "my" watch on the front, albeit with "Shenmue" written on the dial.
Likely it was a mock-up using a stock picture, because the Ltd watch came in a completely different box.
Either they altered/photo-shopped it on, or there really is a Ltd Edition watch with the correct writing.
But every Ltd one I've seen has the alternative writing, so I doubt it.

Recently I've discovered that on the back of these watches there's a number stamped on the bottom right strap pin brace. Interestingly (to me!) they differ. I've seen numbers 2, 4 5 and 6.
The watch with number 2 was the same one I'm after. All the others had the alternative writing.
So it's likely these numbers relate to the manufacturing order.

Manufacturing order? WTF am I talking about.
I'm in too deep man.
I'm in way too deep.

Wow thanks for the info! Even I didn't know about the reverse text in the inner ring! I had an absolute heart attack when I read that, and jumped out of bed to dig out my watches. Indeed you are correct about the Official Shenmue Timex, with mine having the text incorrectly facing outwards. I also checked with David, PoL and a few others I know own the official watch and indeed they are all the same.

BUT, thankfully my standard Timex T43371 does have the correct writing so I guess I was lucky when I got it back in 2010.

http://i.imgur.com/rPNYAzI.jpg

As far as I know, the "Expedition" was removed due to licensing issues, and the developers couldn't get the date function to work correctly in game, hence why they were removed. So in theory, you legitimately cannot get an exact version of the in game watch. Even if I took the YS/Shenmue straps off my limited edition and put them on my regular T43371 face, the "Expedition" text and the date window will always remain.

I've said it so many times, but when real footage of this game emerges and trailers are made public, true fans of Shenmue are going to be completely blown away by how amazing this game is on a "Shenmue" level.

It really will be a true successor to the previous two games.

Gamescom booked.

So who's in? Who's going to be there? We have the potential for the biggest meet up, so it would be awesome to see a lot of you there!

Just have to take a moment to wish farewell to the good ol' paryapus logo. Poor thing had a hard life and it's thankfully been retired to history.

Thank God too! How immense is the fact that we have a new, old logo. I mean, never mind dreams coming true at Gamescom, we are going to have a physical box with the real Shenmue 3 logo on it. The one that was revealed in 2015.

Words cant describe how happy I am about that alone. Fuck yes!

I'm almost sure they stream keynotes on their front page.

I will be there on behalf of the Dojo with live Twitter and Instagram posts throughout the event. Other sections of the community may be there also but it's still all being worked on at the moment, so more details will be revealed over the coming weeks.

The only one I can find is EA did have a full on conference stream last year. It seemed open to the public too.

I also think a lot of fans who are going are thinking that when they watch E3 every year, it's a simple case of "getting into the audience" like it's a sports event etc, when that's not the case at all. Usually those are events are for business holders, employees, and even developers of the actual games being shown. Sony audiences are invited individually for example.

Yea it's not a very well described event. I mean the questions outweigh the answers with Gamescom.

Does YSNET attend Devcom now?
Is that the developer conference?
Or the Gamescom public keynote?
Can people purchase the business pass/VIP pass (at ridiculous prices)
Does a press pass allow you into the business area?
Is the Devcom press accreditation separate from Gamescom accreditation?
Is the Gamescom Congress related to this?
It says some fans may be granted access to business halls on the Tuesday. How?

I could go on but I will leave it there for now.

I should be transparent, and these questions are related to anyone attending Cologne in person. There is no cause for concern whatsoever about any and all footage, trailers, gameplay, announcements etc being made public. They went public with that by announcing it as a Kickstarter update. NO backer is going to miss out on any footage, and it's definitely not the case that there is material is being shown behind closed doors and won't be made available to the public, either via livestream or instant update/media release.

I'd laugh if it was just an image of a new vending machine. I'd actually be laughing so hard, shake Suzuki's hand, keep laughing and walk away.