Yeah... I'm not understanding the outright angst people have for Shenmue. Many have already stated that it's a Kickstarter game with limited funds. That was obvious since E3 2015 or the Kickstarter would have never happened. It was explained pretty well.

As for the Naughty Dog comparison earlier... comparing one of the most talented devs currently in the industry that has nearly unlimited resources given their successes with that of YsNet that has severely limited resources... is just asinine. That said, I would still put Yu Suzuki as being just as talented as anyone at Naughty Dog.

In reference to maybe we shouldn't be having blind fanboyism or maybe we should be more subjective instead of just having faith in the project... I would remind anyone that says otherwise that it was the fanboy's faith that got Shenmue 3 off the ground and made it a reality. I will admit that I had lost faith in ever seeing Shenmue continue and then when I saw the Kickstarter announcement... after picking my jaw up off the floor, I quickly added my piece of the pie to the project.

I knew right from the beginning that Shenmue 3 wouldn't be on the level of today's AAA games. It wouldn't be an Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption or Assassin's Creed and you know what...?... It doesn't need to be. Shenmue 1 and 2 were incredible games regardless of not having today's graphical and animation fidelity.

As I loved and still love the original Shenmue games... that was my baseline for what to expect from the graphic and animation capabilities of the third game. In all honesty... that's what I was actually expecting... but in HD resolution... and I was just fine with it. When it broke records getting 3x what Suzuki-san was asking... my expectation for the graphical and animation fidelity remained at around Dreamcast levels. Granted, that was partially because I was having difficulty envisioning a modern day Shenmue.

Given the teaser trailer and the facial animation update, the project is thus far, exceeding my expectations. My main concern right now is two fold.

1. Will Sega give us the first two games in HD?
2. I'm more than likely going to be moving in the next six months. If the surveys on where to send my copy of the game comes before I discover where my new address will be, I'm not sure where to have them send it.

Am I at all worried about Shenmue 3 and that I'll be enjoying it? Not. At. All.

Developed a bit of an obsession goin round takin pictures when I finished Arkham Knight:

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Hopefully the game comes to PC.. atleast eventually. Surprised to learn recently that RDR1 never came to PC.

I'm playing Assassin's Creed: Unity.

Unity has the worst freerunning in the series next to the very first game. 3 and Black Flag's freerunning may have been a bit too streamlined, but it worked most of the time. Unity's attempt to make freerunning less streamlined and more accurate just made everything more complicated and less functional. Arno can climb and leap much greater distances than past protagonists, yet has trouble making tiny steps off of ledges or into windows. He also has trouble climbing up obstacles that I KNOW he can do and has done before, but for some reason he refuses to make the effort.

All of these problems are amplified during this freerunning segment of a mission. It frustrated me so much I finally used the co-op feature. Unfortunately my PS Plus trial expired and they kicked me out the mission right after finishing the freerunning segment (didn't help that the co-op members kept fucking around and not doing the objective). So now I'm back to square 1 tearing my hair out and attempting the freerunning section alone once again with nothing to show for it.

Combat also is a chore. Combat may have been a bit too easy in the previous games, but the worse way to raise the difficulty is to make the player weak and level scale everyone else. If I'm using a sword and the guy isn't wearing armor, I shouldn't need to cut him 20 times to kill him. ESPECIALLY when I can kill him in a single hit with a tiny knife. Combat only reaches the lower difficulty of the previous games when wearing high level equipment (which I bought via the tried-and-true "buy all the real estate and leave the game running" method). I think the camera is also worse since there always seems to be someone offscreen that you don't see until after they hit or shoot you.

Buying skills sucks. I could see how it'd be useful if you can choose what abilities to get without having to wait until you get far into the story, but the bulk of the upgrades are all story-locked anyways so it's pointless. There are also things that are skill point-locked that you got just by default in past games. Do I really need to level up in order to learn how to roll on the ground or sit on a bench?

Ubisoft's general greediness annoys me. Uplay ads, microtransactions, and the annoying companion app features that I'm never going to use that are plastered everywhere (which have all already gone offline years ago). I also seem to have run into more bugs than I have in any other Assassin's Creed game. It's a series known for bugs, but I've always played them after they've been out for awhile and all patched up.

A lot of people have complained about the sameness of the past games, but at least they worked. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Ubisoft tried to fix it and just made it more broke than before.

I don't think it's specially convincing but the Wikipedia quote is still my favorite insight into what the game is.

If the Grand Theft Auto games have been vilified as crime simulators in which you can press a button to buy a hooker then run a hooker over with a car, Shenmue is a game where you can press a button to politely ask directions, then combo into cherishing your elders and always remembering to recycle. Instead of giving us a city to be tested and battered against in all directions, Shenmue builds you a world and asks you to follow the rules rather than break them.

Brendan Main, The Escapist, December 21, 2010


I would add "And that is what makes the game so fun!".

Honestly, I think the main selling point for shenmue should be its immersion.

Yakuza 3 holds a special place in my heart, as it was the reason I bought a PS3. Definitely not my favorite, but it's a memorable one for me.

Hard to get nice screenshots with games cluttered with onscreen info, but I really wanted to give a shout out to a game I might like even more than the Souls series (neck to neck tbh)... Dragon's Dogma

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It doesn't bother me personally. I see the Kiwami series as light reboots made as sequels to 0 rather than remakes of the first 2 games, so i picture Majima as a main character in that context.

Some people must've shat a brick when Sonic 3 came out.

That's actually a really interesting perspective. I mean, I'll probably still feel the way I do about it just because I am already so familiar with the series (and these two particular games), but that's still a really respectable way of looking at it.
It probably helps that I never played through the first Yakuza game and only through Yakuza 2 once nearly a decade ago.

on an unrelated not I was watching Yakuza 5 videos and all I could think of was that I was happy no one surprised me playing through Haruka's section. I can't imagine trying to get someone to believe I'm playing a manly game about the Japanese mafia after seeing the gameplay in the following video.
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Journey (PS3).

I always dreamed of a game with a secret way to break the boundaries for something truly worthwhile, and one day a fellow traveller took me on a journey i'll never forget.
I was amazed to see that the levels have out of bounds areas that are much bigger than the intended path, and full of detail, secrets and wonderful things - like ruins, monsters, towering cliffs which you can fly up vertically, extra music etc etc....
There's so much to see and do. I haven't taken the intended route for a very long time. I've explored and found my own secrets to add to an alternative route up the mountain, where it's possible to climb to the very peak for an incredible view (not just the bit down in the cleft).

Some of my best moments in gaming are the reactions from travellers when I take them through to "Glitch-world", and the messages I get afterwards. Although often they just stand there bemused as to why I'm flying into a wall at a certain angle, and don't follow me through.

Here, I've taken Japanese traveller Shirakuma-fafa on an elaborate out of bounds path so as to jump back onto the intended path to make a monster get stuck so we can stand in its head listening to the unbelievably creepy sounds it makes (usually - sometimes it's rather quiet for some reason).
But the thing is still alive and dangerous, which is hard to convey when you can only beep and meep. So I tip-toe up to it super-slowly and stop to beep like crazy if my companion gets ahead of me.
They often get the message, but sometimes just wander right into it's light beam which wakes it up. The thing pulls its body through and rears up high like a cobra then dives down and smashes them high up into the air. They land with a broken scarf - which means they can't fly properly for the rest of the game, although strangely, about 1 in 3 times their entire scarf grows back with a golden glow when they stand up.

If anyone is up for an epic journey, let me know by PM. It's possible to meet if done properly. I set up 2 PS3's in the same room for me and my GF, she's not a gamer but absolutely loved it. It would be best if you have a white robe, so your scarf charges up when you touch the ground. It's possible with a red coat but a lot of work for me to keep charging you for flight all the time. Ok, I've talked myself into it. I'm going on a journey right now.


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It's quite surprising just how dead this forum is outside of the Shenmue III forum. The whole time we were waiting for SIII,
GD was the most active and now SIII is a reality everyone has fucked off.

For me it’s 2 things:
1. I don’t like the random thoughts or random gaming thoughts topics. I think after they were created people stopped making topics and just posted in them and if you missed the conversation it was too late to jump in.

2. The Shenmue III announcement brought a slew of people who don’t stick around and just want to talk about Shenmue. Before Shenmue III we had a strong 20 or so regulars that got along and knew each other’s likes and dislikes. If someone recommended me a game I took the suggestion seriously as I knew they knew what I was into. Even the general topics were normally a laugh from anything to people talking about their life, funny news stories or serious debates.

We even put rules in topics like the gaming music thread that no Shenmue music could be shared because we knew everyone liked it and we didn’t need to just talk about Shenmue. After 10 years of no Shenmue news most of the regulars were bored of talking about it, I’m still bored of talking about Shenmue and I’m just waiting for Shenmue III which I’m really excited about but have no interest disecting every screenshot. I imagine most of the old regulars feel the same as I don’t see many in the Shenmue forums and although they all at least liked Shenmue to most it wasn’t the best thing ever.

I’ve thought about trying to inject life into the forums and just posting tons of topics to try and get conversation flowing again. The thing that put me off was that I didn’t know most of the names posting anymore, I used to know every name that posted here and their personality. I don’t really have much interest in talking to a bunch of people who don’t hang around like 95% of those who posted in the introduce yourself topic. I’d take 20 people who come onto a forum to bullshit, have a laugh and discuss their hobby over 50 that have an interest in one topic. This forum has always been a Shenmue forum in name but the 10 odd years I was posting here it was more a general gaming forum with down to earth people.

The option to view a 5-minute "previously on Shenmue" video at the start screen, plus some flashbacks during the game seems like the best option to me.

A player could have gone through Shenmue 2 just fine without having played Shenmue 1. Flashbacks aren't necessary.

The recent release of the JFK files made me think of this. A lot of people thought that wth the release of these files ‘the truth’ would finally come out.

If you could be allowed to find out the truth about one topic what would it be? You’ll get all the details. 9/11? Is the moon landing real? Is God real?

Whatever you pick will be delieved to you in the form of an essay that will be written so that you can understand it. Also you can’t tell anyone else about what you find out, no running to the press or anything like that.

For me I’d want to know about life outside of earth and how much we really know about them. Does the government know and keep the news hidden? Do aliens know about us and we don’t know about them? Or are we really alone?

I always check my window to see if OL isn't there taking pictures of me undress.

If YOU are an administrator/moderator for the dojo then, as with NeoGAF, I want no part of it. I'm outie.

Fix up.


We'll miss you! :hello:

What sort of person compares groping someone to killing kids? Idiots.I guess he's "outie" then.

He got one thing right though, OL is definitely a creeper! :lol:

^That last pic is horrifying.

I got these in the GOG Halloween sale. The 3 STALKER games, Broken Sword 4, and I threw in Shadowman so I could hit the $15 minimum and get Tales of Borderlands for free.

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The United States Central Intelligence Agency released a cache of files found on Osama Bin Laden's personal computer taken from the deadly 2011 raid on his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Among the 321 gigabytes of files found on his computer, of which many were related to his operations for Al Qaeda, were copyrighted materials the CIA could not republish. These included several animated movies, TV shows, as well as a copy of Final Fantasy VII.

http://www.usgamer.net/amp/the-cia-released-321-gigabytes-of-files-from-bin-ladens-computer-which-had-a-copy-of-final-fantasy-vii

The more I hear about the guy the more I like him.

A performance can't be objectively good or bad.

What if even Shenmue 6 ends with a cliffhanger?

I hope Louis CK gets to keep making movies. I was really looking forward to the filmmaker phase of his career.

I still can't believe people actually liked Sonic Generations. Sure, the first three levels were decent, but the mechanics themselves were pretty damn awful. Even Classic Sonic had major issues with the poor jump controls.

It's pretty hilarious to me how all this shite was set in motion by my favourite of the series... Sonic Adventure. What's frustrating though is how getting the games back on track isn't exactly a difficult task, they just seem completely unwilling to consider anything else.

Almost like someone who reckons their way of getting their hand out of a meat grinder is by going all the way through.

This is how you sell a game. I just downloaded this Layton Brothers app to see if it was any good and I'm already in love from the first screen.

It seems that they have updated the kickstarter page's front image with the one that they showed as advertisement at te gamescom. They use the new Shenmue font by Suzuki.

I wonder if they'll show the complete and revised version of the 1st teaser with facial animation and everything before of the end of the year :-k

This is a great sign! The company that I asked to donate $50M refuse to answer whether they've donated or not. You know what this means? Ys Net obviously asked them to keep the information classified or something like that. Big things are going to happen, I'm sure!
Oh stop it.

This is a great sign! The company that I asked to donate $50M refuse to answer whether they've donated or not. You know what this means? Ys Net obviously asked them to keep the information classified or something like that. Big things are going to happen, I'm sure!

Actually, this is kind of worrying. By now, I'm sure so many people you've asked have donated so much money that the budget is certainly ballooning far beyond even Star Citizen levels. I expect they're approaching half a billion dollars, and climbing fast. Feature creep is going to set in and the exponentially-expanded version of Shenmue III won't release until 2024.

I recently hung out with Corey Marshall.
Truly a humble man and the perfect man to be the english voice of Ryo

Shenmue_Legend wrote:This is a great sign! The company that I asked to donate $50M refuse to answer whether they've donated or not. You know what this means? Ys Net obviously asked them to keep the information classified or something like that. Big things are going to happen, I'm sure!

lol

Your arguments in favour of these games is that you enjoy the level design. My argument is that I don't think Generations is a good game because the mechanics are poorly designed... amongst a few other things.

If you want me to go in depth it'd require drawing diagrams and calculating trajectories, comparing the acceleration from the running function to the jumping function, attempting to recreate bugs, showing you a video of the final boss battle and marking out how nigh on impossible it is to see the rings coming, create a few slide show presentations on good design, bad design, and then drawing up a table on which category every aspect of Sonic Generations fits into, and quite frankly... I don't actually care that much to do it.

I'm happy to debate others on here. It's something I enjoy doing, but you seem to enjoy repeating yourself and asking the same of others. May I suggest just re-reading the posts instead? Nothing bears the originals!