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Re: Shenmue Collections

A little update for my collection. I added the Kuming You're my only CD, Shenmue the Movie DVD, KG Books Guide and US DC Magazine Demo with Shenmue on it to my stuff a while ago.

Today I recieved something much nicer though. I finally got a hold of the Chapter 1 Yokosuka OST. I'm pleased to announce that it's no cheap bootleg this time. It's the absolute real thing by Sega with the small film strip and everything.

http://s14.directupload.net/images/130924/temp/xc373y3q.jpg

The mastering of the CD is outstanding as it sounds fantastic. I'm listening to it right now and it sounds a lot cleaner then the high quality MP3s I had for so long. And I have an X-Fi sound card in my PC and I do not have have an expensive CD Player connected to my stereo. It's just my DVD player that I use to listen to the CD so put that in perspective.
by BlueMue
Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:07 am
 
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Re: Support Shenmue in a big German poll

Has this been spread yet? It's gotten pretty quiet after Shenmue won. It really should be featured on the Dojo's front page.
by BlueMue
Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:46 am
 
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Re: Shenmue Cinematic Wallpapers

Wow! This one turned out really epic!
by BlueMue
Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:20 pm
 
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Re: Is there something wrong with Ryo?

Oh, another one of these...

I don't know why people always expect Ryo to hit on every chick that there is. Yeah it's actually the chicks that do the move but seriously, does he have to take all the offers? I find Ryo to be a much more likeable and "realistic" character then the stereotypical macho hero you get in every second game.

Ryo's father died and he has left his home for a foreign country at still pretty young age. He's distant and distrustful for a reason. Also, he might just still have his heart settled down for Nozomi, despite not showing it and keeps somewhat of an honor when it comes to girls. Then you could even consider his bad memories with girls. I sadly don't know where this came from but supposedly the fight with "that boy you fought with" was because of Ryo showing interest in a girl and the other boy mocking him for that. That could've affected his behavior early on.
by BlueMue
Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:58 pm
 
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Re: Shenmue Cinematic Wallpapers

This is really awesome! Looks like something that Sega should have done in 1999 for the promotion of the game. Definatley something I'd like to print out in huge format and hang upon my wall. We need this in super-high-res!!
by BlueMue
Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:22 am
 
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Re: Is there something wrong with Ryo?

Well, that's just what Ryo was told to look for. If Liu-san told him to look for members of the Yakuza, he would've done that. If Liu-san told him to look out for scantily clad women offering certain services, he would've done that too. \:D/
by BlueMue
Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:08 am
 
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Re: Must Lan Di die in the Final Fight?

Well that's just how I think. Lan Di deserves to to be punished for murdering Iwao. Though this is Shenmue we're talking about, so it doesn't have to follow the typical plot in that situation.
by BlueMue
Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:15 am
 
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Re: New Yu Suzuki's project

In Soviet Russia, Shenmue III is making Yu Suzuki...

Unless there is some real source and evidence, I don't know what to think. If it's true, it would be really bad for Shenmue, at least throwing the possibility of III's arrival back by years.
by BlueMue
Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:54 pm
 
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Excite QTE 2 Video

I recorded some footage of Excite QTE 2 off my TV. Hope you enjoy it! :D

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by BlueMue
Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:28 am
 
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Re: Shenmue Collections

Another update from me:

Today I finally got the Exclusive Edition Ryo Hazuki Statue. Had to buy one off eBay for a lot more then it costed on the F4F site but I completely missed the opportunity to preorder so I had no choice, as I just HAD to get one of these. It's really awesome!

I also got some promotional Shenhua cell phone decoration wrist strap thing from Japan. Not the one with the little Shenhua figure but the one with the little round metal plate. Pops up much rarer then the other one.

http://s1.directupload.net/images/131105/9wago8k4.jpg
by BlueMue
Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:36 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki revisits Shenmue in GDC 2014

This could be nothing again, like so many times before...
But damn it sure sounds like something big. It would fit well into the the grand puzzle with all the recent news regarding Shenmue and Sony, the pictures of Yu and Mark and whatnot.

Anyway there will definatley some really interesting talk about Shenmue no matter what. Even if it turns out that Yu Suzuki abandoned Shenmue forever and focuses on other projects, this should be the most informative event regarding Shenmue in many many years.

I definately expect something big of this. Not huge but definately bigger then anything since ~ 2004.
by BlueMue
Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:20 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki: Project Berkley - English Subtitled -

What was going on here? I saw the thread but did something else before watching the video. When I came back it was gone... I almost thought I was hallucinating. Glad it's back up now!

I have to give a big thank you to Ziming and Rakim for making this. I've always wanted to understand what exactly Yu is talking about on the PD disc. Finally I can. Also great to have it in one part now and being able to pause and skip back and forth, unlike on the Dreamcast.
by BlueMue
Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:47 am
 
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Re: How do you picture Shenmue III in your mind?

I have a feeling that it may not meet the expectations. A lot of years have passed and Shenmue had a rough time.
Yu Suzuki already explained that he had condensed the missing chapters and Shenmue III probably won't be as high in quality as it would've been if they continued on the Dreamcast. Of course it can look better now, but would it have the same production value?

As for my personal thoughts. I think that the game will be more walking through the chinese outback, just like at the end of Shenmue II. I think that Ryo will generally travel a lot more and the towns may not have as many characters, shops, arcades and whatnot like Dobuita and Wan-Chai. I said before that I'd find this kinda sad, since the first game put such a large emphasis on an extremely realistic town but the story seems to be heading away from that and into the mythical and spiritual.
by BlueMue
Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:20 am
 
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Re: Interesting find on Gamewinners...

I have tried it with the guide today but she just tells Ryo the usual stuff and that there's nothing new she can read afterwards.
There definately have to be other factors that make you get this.
Since I was sure that this dialogue really existet I searched through the files and actually found the lines! I made a little conversation out of the files. I'm not sure if they come directly in this order (especially Ryo's reactions) but I'm sure they are related and it makes sense. Ryo's a real ass here once more...

Here you go: http://spindash.de/forum/master_dl/ryofortune.mp3

There are actually many neat things among the palm readings of this girl. They go through the whole story until the end of disc 3. While she is traveling to Hong Kong with Ryo it's impossible to get readings from her after Ryo reached the COGH since the whole area is shut down for remodeling. She might move to somewhere else at that point but I haven't found her.
Anyway... she's really jealous about other girls that Ryo will meet. She makes negative readings about Joy, Xiuying and Fangmei and uses key infos like blue dresses and red hair. Afterwards she allways says something about herself, like that her blue dress doesn't mean anything bad and that she is happy not to have red hair and such. She's a real fun girl actually. Didn't knew they put so much extra stuff into the palm reading.
by BlueMue
Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:52 pm
 
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Barry Jones darts video

I was having fun with Barry Jones (the Jamaican darts player) the other day and recorded the final throw of the match. Watch him find his master in a 300 HK$ match. :lol:

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by BlueMue
Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:01 am
 
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Re: Funnest Ways to Play Shenmue

Probably the funnest way to play Shenmue besides the typical route of triggering all the hidden cutscene, training and collecting until the cows come etc. is to let Ryo act like a fool by failing at every point in the game where it won't result in a retry. I call that a "Failzuki" run.
Shenmue has a handfull of scenes where you can do that, like getting beaten during the schoolgirls QTE in the harbor or acting so stupid during the forklift training that Mark will give up to teach Ryo how to operate it properly.

Shenmue II is much better in this regard and that's where I originally coined the term "Failzuki". There are a ton of scenes after losing fights or failing QTEs. Especially the whole quest of getting the stolen bag back is full of them.
by BlueMue
Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:31 pm
 
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Re: Secrets and Easter Eggs

Joy takes the money that Ryo owes to Ren Dan? When is that supposed to happen. I usually don't pay him nowadays and I never noticed any money was gone missing and there definately wasn't a scene for that. :shock:

By the way, I advice you to add the following to your list. It's a criminally overlooked and highly entertaining scene:
Here's one I just discovered...

While you're airing out books at Man Mo Temple, go to Godhead Fortunetellers and have your fortune told. He'll tell you that Zhu's footsteps are in the "old city" (Wise Men's Qtr.) and that you should go to Wise Men's Kung Fu. But, instead of going there, waste time during the day and don't gather any new information.
The next morning, when Ryo goes to air out the books, you'll get a cutscene with Fangmei I've never seen before. She'll be sweeping and forget her dust pan, and then bump into Ryo from around the corner. Ryo catches her broom and apologizes, then he askes about Yuanda Zhu. Fangmei says she remembered seeing the name on a book called Wulinshu in the temple library. Pretty cool alternate way to get the info.
by BlueMue
Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:15 pm
 
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Re: Japan + Legalized Casinos + Sega = Shenmue III??

Sound interesting but it's a pretty long shot to assume that a boost in revenue on Sammy's side will ultimately result in Shenmue III getting developed. It might raise the possibilitly of them risking something and to invest money in the project. But who knows how long it will take until the actually make more money. 2020 is far away...
by BlueMue
Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:46 am
 
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Re: Chi you men boss of the bosses??

The fortune telling is only a vague hint where you can find her. It's purely geographically because the Black Heaven Bldg is in the north of Kowloon and Chunyan could be considered the nothern fighter of the bunch. The animal isn't hinted but black and north do match. Rod is the Phoenix (Phoenix Bldg.), Greg is the Dragon (Blue Dragon Garden) and then there is Baihu who is the Tiger. The area you fight him in was actually supposed to be called Tiger Gate Bldg during developement (there is a left over load screen afair).

Shenmue loves the legend of the four heavenly beasts and it's repesented in quite a few situations.
by BlueMue
Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:12 pm
 
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Re: Shenmue Creatives

I submitted a little image that I've made. Just had to contribute something. 8)
The meme's are indeed hilarious! And I demand the jacket texture for Mafia II, I love that game!
by BlueMue
Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:40 pm
 
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Re: Sony Is Trying To Bring Shenmue To Playstation

Well like I made Ryo express earlier, this is mighty disappointing. It's a missed chance of more publicitiy and it just feels like Shenmue fans got cheated. You can actually say that it goes beyond feeling, becasue it actually is the truth.

The numbers just don't match and if you read the article then Shenmue is not only never mentioned, they also say that Timesplitters was a close second and they can't talk themselves out of that anymore.
But sometimes that's just the way it goes... Oh what's that they all vote for? Shenmue? Nah we can't list that, I've never played that and I won't because it never was on a PlayStation. So it doesn't count anyway!
by BlueMue
Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:55 pm
 
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Re: #SaveShenmue

I've shared the link on the SpinDash forums and supported the campaign on Facebook. Not much but I was getting sick of not participating in these all the time... The thing is, those social networks really aren't my thing. Never really got into them.
by BlueMue
Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:12 pm
 
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Re: Shenmue Creatives

It's been ages since I had Yu-Gi-Oh cards but I still remember how they are made and work and this is really funny!
The 12 stars could very well stand for the (now presumably) 12 chapters of the saga. :lol:
by BlueMue
Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:05 pm
 
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

I like how you can get away from the security guards. I knew about that, discovered that a few years ago, but it's nice to see it getting mentioned here. On my recent playthrough the last few days I did that once for fun while wasting all the days until Shozo gives you all the hints. I have to say that the guards seem a lot easier then all those years ago when I first played the game. They are sometimes so slow that they don't even catch up to Ryo running at half speed. Had to stop so I got caught.

Did you know that you can actually execute the whole moves during the teaching of the Double Blow, Shadow Step, Swallow Flip and Tornado Kick when you're supposed to just do the steps first? The person who teaches you will react impressed upon Ryo's quick learning of the move. Did that wherever possible during my recent playthrough, was something new for me.

About the sunrise. Is it actually possible to stay awake that long during the search for the bars? I know you can stay up well into the night but afair you still get teleported back home at 3 or 4 a.m.

One more thing. Does anybody know if the Shenmue Dojo channel or anyone else on YouTube has the "Shamisen version" of Shenhua's theme uploaded? It's a very short loop that plays close to the vending machine besides the Ajiichi during the new year's week. I never heard that until my recent playthrough as I usually always finish the game before that point in time and I found that quite interesting. I think it should go into the Dojo's channel's music collection to make it absolutely complete, if it isn't uploaded yet.
by BlueMue
Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:20 am
 
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Re: What are the chances the game is in development?

Who knows... It could very well be in development hell since more then a decade. It most likely is as there definately has to be some material that goes beyond Shenmue II that hasn't surfaced. Sega is known to leak like a rusty bucket when it comes to Sonic but Shenmue stuff is tightly sealed. They seem to keep that IP under super high top secret level or else we would have some early beta or even Saturn stuff by now.

The current situation is of course interesting and a lot of thing point in one direction, that Shenmue III eventually is in the making (again) right now. This stuff has been said countless times by now already but that what most of the community is thinking right now. I can only repeat that I'm pretty optimistic since all the recent good news.

Let's just hope that they really just keep things under wraps really good and that Shenmue III is actually somewhat far in development. Though I wouldn't mind waiting 2-3 more years for the development process if it get's announced this year.
by BlueMue
Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:52 pm
 
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Re: Old lady in Sakuragaoka giving hint to translate the let

Finally got her to appear after I looked at the notebook guide for some hints. You have to go to the Ajiichi first, get the hint that Guangji could help and when you find him at the vending machine don't buy him a drink. When you walk back to Sakuragaoka the old lady will be there and you have to talk to her twice to get the hint about Xia.
I was a sunny day and close to 3 p.m. just as a side note.

http://s14.directupload.net/images/140102/mu3wfudm.jpg

By the way, the bio is waaay off on the age. I've look in the official guide and she's actually 78.
Makes a lot more sense then 44...
by BlueMue
Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:27 am
 
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Re: #SaveShenmue

I participated through Facebook and told some friends directly to support it aswell. Feels good to finally be a part of it this month! Hopefully we'll top the results of December and get close to a social reach of at least 400.000! :D
by BlueMue
Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:18 pm
 
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Re: SHENMUE XMAS SPECIAL GAME

I played through the game again and now recieved the good ending. Did virtually all choices different but I think I know what causes the ending to change. If I think about it, it actually makes sense that bad is about to happen if you choose that option. :lol:
by BlueMue
Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:23 pm
 
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

I know how you feel Giorgio. Had the same experience. English isn't my native language and I didn't find the english dub bad at all. Of course back then it was revolutionary large for a game and was pretty good in general but since the standards got higher and higher it seems cheaper and cheaper. I think people tend to exaggerate when it comes to the voices. There are much MUCH worse dubs. Anyone, even those that don't have English as their native language can tell that the dub of Shenmue II is WAY worse and also why. The voice actors sound bored and unemotional as hell or way over the top to the point of just being silly.

I still really like the English dub of the first game. It really isn't bad. All the main voices are pretty good and pleasant to listen to. Some NPCs do sound awkward, they always did. The problem with the english dub lies more in the recording quality. They did a poor job there, the voices tend to be overly loud, to the point of clipping and it seems the recording studio was has a microphone in an regual ol' empty living room. There is such reverb in so many lines...
Then again, in Shenmue the Movie the voices sound really good. Much clearer, no clipping and no reverb. The dub just get's soooo much better with that quality.

The Japanese dub is generally of higher quality. The recordings are cleaner, without the issue and some lines are actually less compressed and sound WAY cleaner then anything in the English dub (in the game). The voices are also generally better, because they just had more know-how over there. Also it's really just so authenic, especially because the Americans speak broken Japanese with a lot of English inbetween.
There are some voices that don't sound so good here too, though. Master Chen for example has a very "throaty" voice that just sounds voice and annoying at the same time.
by BlueMue
Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:39 am
 
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Re: Shenmue Cinematic Wallpapers and Extras

Man they just keep coming! Awesome as always, really really like this one. The perfect Guilin chapter introduction image.
by BlueMue
Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:56 pm
 
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Re: Old lady in Sakuragaoka giving hint to translate the let

Now also in English! 8)

http://s14.directupload.net/images/140106/s4l2u8kd.jpg

It's still really strange to meet her roaming around freely. What's funny is that she is voiced by the same actress as Xia-san and in that dialog she doesn't try to sound much different. Strange coincedence that she leads you to another old lady with the same voice.

By the way, she's still roaming around in Sakuragaoka the next day early in the morning, while it's snowing.
So I guess the time and weather don't have much to do with it. It seems to just be the failed route with Guangji that makes her appear.
by BlueMue
Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:15 pm
 
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Re: Fuku-san helping out in the basement?

Oh yeah, it finally worked! Thanks a lot, Radar!
Fuku-san is really funny when he comes down the second time. He's totally creeped out about the place, it really scares him. Man I just LOVE Shenmue to no end... even after maybe already up to 30 playthroughs and hundreds of discoveries, there is STILL something new to discover. The game just never stops to give! [-o<

You really just have to run around the basement for 2 hours straight without stopping long or locking on to anything. Basically just run, walk or move the camera around the whole time. Standing around or looking at things won't do it. That's the point!

I'm pretty sure the two notebook entries in the Dojo are triggered the same way. I think I'm going to try this out soon and record all that rare footage of Fuku-san. Also might send the writer of the guide on GameFAQs the info about these entries. Both so future Shenmue players will always know how to get these.

Two picture for you to enjoy until then:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140108/938soykk.jpg

http://s1.directupload.net/images/140108/3ukxkqcd.jpg
by BlueMue
Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:11 am
 
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Fuku-san helping out in the basement?

Okay, this is another "unsolved mystery" of Shenmue. I just can't figure out how to get this obscure scene where Fuku-san is coming down into the basement and gives Ryo some tips.

I'm currently going for a complete notebook and the quest to find the Phoenix mirror is really irritating around that time. There are two entries that are supposed to appear when you take 2 hours each while searching the Dojo. They didn't appear when I tried and since even the notebook guide is unsure how to get these I kinda gave up on them and moved into the basement where more of that waiting is supposed to give notebook entries. Since there's actually a screenshot of Fuku-san in the basement in Prima's official guide I had to try this one out no matter what, since I've never seen that!

Well, I had no luck and I have no idea how to make Fuku-san come down there. I tried looking at everything besides the things that give notebook entries and a lot of waiting until Ryo went to bed. I reloaded and tried again, this time just standing around the basement until 4 a.m. That's doing nothing for 19 hours!

How do you get all those entries and especially the scene with Fuku-san? Are there any prerequisites before starting to search for the mirror? Seems there have to be some or the game would simply give the scenes when you take too long while trying to figure things out.
by BlueMue
Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:11 pm
 
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Re: The Missing Sword

This is a in-game piece of dialogue Ryo says to himself when the user attempts to select the hand guard while holding the sword or vise virsa yes? If you have both with you in the Dojo and haven't messed with the hanging scrolls yet you can press A on the selected hand guard from the menu and you can watch Ryo try to put it over the sword.

I also thought about it being strange that they don't fit together, yet you see Iwao use the sword with the hand guard in a flashback. There is a very simple explanation though. The handguard get's attached from the other side, by removing the grip somehow, so it's tightly secured between the blade and the grip. Imagine it would just be pushed over the blade. The enemy could just pull it off your sword in combat, not really a good idea...
Why Ryo doesn't know how to properly attach it to the sword is beyond me.
Maybe Iwao just didn't tought him that or any sword combat whatsoever.

I'm no expert on swords but I heard this from a buddy who probably read it somewhere and I think it makes sense.
by BlueMue
Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:31 am
 
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Re: Fuku-san helping out in the basement?

As promised I made a video of these scenes with Fuku-san. I was also able to trigger the hints in the Dojo, they're in the video aswell. Enjoy!

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by BlueMue
Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:56 pm
 
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Re: Old lady in Sakuragaoka giving hint to translate the let

I made a video of the meeting with Kame in Sakuragaoka. Enjoy seeing her carry an umbrella in the rain!

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by BlueMue
Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:48 pm
 
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Re: How does shenmue hold up today?

To me Shenmue is just a timeless game that doesn't seem to age like other games did and still do.
It was THAT special when it came out. So much that it's still something unique to this day. The attention to detail is so incredible for a game made in the last century. It goes beyond the limits of the graphics itself. The music is also extremely strong and timeless. The free music is just pure magic!

The freedom in the game may not be able to rival todays sandbox games but Shenmue is an action adventure and for that genre it still delivers an incredible amount of ways for the player to spend time with it.

Above all else it's the characters and the story that stand the test of time. The facial animations and the voice acting have aged but the characters are still very believable and just extremely likeable. It might be slow, it may seem boring and it will take a bit of time to get into, but once you reached a certain point you'll just get sucked in this incredible experience.

The game just had a huge impact on me when I played it the first time back in 2000. Like described above it took a bit of time until I got sucked into the vortex of it's magic but then I absolutely fell in love with it. Over time it never got old. On the contrary! I still to this day discover new things, find new ways to enjoy the game and fall in love with it deeper and deeper. It's almost to the point that you could talk about "possesShen". Yeah I know, terrible pun. :lol:
by BlueMue
Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:44 pm
 
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Re: How old were you when you first played Shenmue?

Looking at the posts so far, a pattern is already starting to shape. Except for Radar everyone so far is in a rather close together group of 12-16 years old. I'd say that's a good age to get sucked into a game. At that age it's easy to get attached to something as your still growing up and learn, thus are "shapeable". But you can already understand and appreciate what's going on well enough. Well, I guess...
by BlueMue
Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:38 pm
 
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Well the modeling is pretty good, even though the phoenix may be a little bit edgy. But the coloring is pretty bad, makes it look cheap and unfinished.

I still don't understand why no one ever released the mirrors as merchandise for the game. They could be made very close to how they look in the game for cheap and they would sell on their own.
by BlueMue
Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:40 pm
 
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Re: Ever see the NPC at the harbor with strange device on mo

I wanted to bring this up in case anyone is still intersted in that device. I have a screenshot (there hasn't been one so far) so you can see how it looks in Shenmue.

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by BlueMue
Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:42 pm
 
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BlueMue Shenmue videos

I'm currently working on the final phase of putting together a couple of videos with multiple rare, funny or otherwise interesting scenes and also other videos about Shenmue.

I'll start with what I've already uploaded in the past. Some of those are really old, starting in 2008.
This topic will house every Shenmue related video that I've made from now on. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYUgJHfttbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQBlHis9LI4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3bGDpukwCM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lePAYlRoTR4
by BlueMue
Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:57 pm
 
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Re: Shenmue scene compilations and other videos

Allright, after a lenghty upload process I present you the first new video.

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It's silly and stupid. Just take it as a slow start to get warm. :lol:
by BlueMue
Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:56 pm
 
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Re: Shenmue scene compilations and other videos

Cool videos. Mind if I re-upload the video with Fuku-san's extra scenes to our channel?
Sure, why not. I'm doing these for the community and the further I can reach out with them, the happier I am!

Speaking of Fuku-san, here's the first real video of the series with a few more easily missed Fuku-san scenes.
I never knew about the first one until my recent notebook run. Pretty obscure but nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9kYi3UWwxE
by BlueMue
Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:30 pm
 
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Re: Shenmue scene compilations and other videos

New video! Ryo is just to stupid for the forklift job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DD2aLOSHmY

@johnvivant: No the Arm Break Fire in the video is leveled well under moderate. It's just the full version of the move. Once the enemy is grabbed you have to press X for the first armlock extension and then X+A for the second one on the ground, both with the right timing. I have trained it to moderate in that playthrough but despite the description implying that it changes I didn't notice any visual differences.
by BlueMue
Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:39 am
 
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