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Re: I'd love to start ShenmueII but I have a problem/questio

Ryo has much (much much much much much) less character hearing his Japanese voice actor. I know Corey gets a lot of shit for his acting skills, but he made Ryo who he is. His voice is synonymous with the character. Just small lines like "I'll break your arm!" would've had much less impact hearing it in Japanese. As a predominantly English-speaking community, we can't personally translate emotion from a foreign language with a distinctly different culture. They put different types of emphasis on different words. It just doesn't have the same effect as when hearing it in your own language. All we're really doing is reading lines with no hint of emphasis (as opposed to comic books and some novels which specifically point it out through use of italics) Thus, the characters' emotions are slightly too open to interpretation to be deemed in any way "better" than the English dub by those of us who don't know Japanese beyond "konichiwa" and "sayonara".

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of poor acting throughout the series' English dub, but as people say, that is part of the charm. Besides, most of the poor acting comes from non-essential characters. And do you really want to play most of the game having to look at the bottom of the screen? Shenmue I & II are beautifully crafted games. You don't want to try enjoying the detailed environment and camera angles during a cut-scene only for text to flash for a second then think "shit, I missed that!"

That is why, for us at least, English dub should be deemed as a, dare I say it, superior way of playing the game than to playing it with Japanese voice w/English subtitles.
by MiTT3NZ
Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:51 am
 
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Re: How long does it take you to beat Dou Niu?

the final fight in shenmue wasn't that bad,because Douniu is too slow

fight against Baihu was the hardest IMO

Code: Select all
http://ichi-3dstuff.blogspot.com/2011/04/gtfo-my-roof.html
by wude
Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:44 pm
 
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Re: Dreamcast Emulators?

Okay, here's the links for everything:

nullDC 1.0.0 (Beta 6)
https://mega.co.nz/#!dYUwyBoT!TioRcQXrQ3rmnMOquHkTy15CJWk3ghQ38ZnxNPjVQn4

nullDC 1.0.3
https://mega.co.nz/#!pB1U3YgL!EMFNr3vIFz3Zqyfwv65NVh0Hs-svxHehwzRWPcQoAsY

nullDC 1.0.4
https://mega.co.nz/#!ZIFEhD6J!bJxFdWs_iJDilosVfc1duCvht7ZUctlGz2W5TE4Kog4

Game Booster (boosts performance)
https://mega.co.nz/#!VElT1biY!JSAAHmG0z_3bXvPXSUFrZWxfOK4wHtHD5U0YTGZJaNs

Xpadder (allows any controller with USB input to be used for and PC game)
https://mega.co.nz/#!5c1TwD5B!X4BCIw4Ye-b_wGts73XdXF66_VoPDAxa8eDuKaMtxQg

Shenmue - Disc 1
https://mega.co.nz/#!oBdzWRhT!BWPsXngr9FA1q4Gq__w63m6TFJJ6VaQMdoVULerkpYw

Shenmue - Disc 2
https://mega.co.nz/#!4YthAZhQ!cGx-_ysYW1To1oayPIMxwhVMN5U1Bc5P7m-QRFD6JLo

Shenmue - Disc 3
https://mega.co.nz/#!8FVViSzY!Z_LmgyKUBDuCvDqSy5Yupi07I2Q4jXcTyv6YFM6swo4

Shenmue - Disc 4
https://mega.co.nz/#!wYF3za5R!AZcf73FpJ8psTLmkLc1CHxOxX6RzeQjHTFgo_DpirIg

Shenmue II - Disc 1
https://mega.co.nz/#!IEdjzTzZ!ePrWsiYJp6lfFFMQnpbAkxWslz1-UIbiO4yFh4RZ4lw

Shenmue II - Disc 2
https://mega.co.nz/#!4MF0UZpL!FgmEWWGluXcVki8rz7g7mTIpDu9CV-mYAwY6xrzDYnM

Shenmue II - Disc 3
https://mega.co.nz/#!gA9EFCpK!Tgn2NDkTeKhfQ20dsVj3nGyzJOBUru3OTqiYvoZQkj4

Shenmue II - Disc 4
https://mega.co.nz/#!5dslCJCR!bhQ1Y1WUSAAP_TDYqR9WrSfvpGp0UgJzbDvvadtUGHA

Shenmue Fan Games (Shenmue Zero, Shenmue: The Boat, Ryo's Room)
https://mega.co.nz/#!UIFTRS5Y!RN0vCl3abO3qtMtucgriljYBADxW7W0drxQBZW2GgI8

Please note that Shenmue II is Japanese voices w/English dub. And if any links are wrong or broken, just let me know and I'll fix them.
by MiTT3NZ
Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:49 am
 
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Re: Dreamcast Emulators?

Here is another rip of Shenmue II for download. It's Japanese with English subtitles.

http://www.mediafire.com/?2k0b446zdqe4n
by Ziming
Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:32 pm
 
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Re: Dreamcast Emulators?

I'm not sure if this is something that could ever be an issue, but that file has been extracted from and compressed to a .rar file many times since I downloaded it a good six to eight years ago. Like I say, I doubt it'a even possible for that to cause issues, if this continues to be a problem after trying Ziming's link I'll try ripping my copy of the game.
by MiTT3NZ
Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:24 pm
 
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Shenmue II Game Music Download | Listen @ShenmueMusic.com

Kowloon

https://youtu.be/ghDi8L6eFWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcyMn6hqCII

Kowloon Playlist
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7D5DA7E5D95F1CBC

Download: In-Game music
Download: Cutscene music

Guilin

https://youtu.be/qE6xxYBgx28

Guilin Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3BC9A1C95E5D2EF4

Download: Guilin music


Shenmue II: Wan Chai Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFSxCQqXd54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HgVgF4j7lU

Wan Chai Playlist
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9B597859AF18032E

Download: In-Game music
Download: Cutscene Music

Aberdeen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KNsl25h2E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgWTOr1E1CE
Aberdeen Playlist
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL91B00B28F8527709&feature=plcp

Download: In-Game music
Download: Cutscene music

Video editing/composition: Ziming
Image Enhancements & Text: Riken Productions
Background renders for character art provided by wude & Master Kyodai
Music recordings: LanDC
by Ziming
Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:30 pm
 
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Re: Japanese version of this text

Mistakes come with consequences here at the dojo. Your punishment is to translate the following videos for Shenmue fans worldwide.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOI5Hj_cmCI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9sd3NtjPfY[/youtube]
by Ziming
Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:14 am
 
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Re: VOTE SHENMUE 3 AS YOUR MOST WANTED XBOX 720 TITLE

Always nice to see Shenmue winning but it should be the entire game on 1 disc rather than just Shenmue 3 :P
by Who Really Cares?
Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:38 am
 
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Re: VOTE SHENMUE 3 AS YOUR MOST WANTED XBOX 720 TITLE

:rotflmao:

Shenmue 3 has pretty much caught up with Timesplitters 4.

We take our meaningless polls seriously as Shenmue fans - don't fuck with us! (Where is that All Stars DLC??)

^This. I'm actually incredibly proud of how seriously us Shenmue fans take these potentially insignificant polls. It's our consistency that impresses. And it's consistency that we're going to need if we ever want to see Shenmue 3 greenlit one day, so I fully endorse this (somewhat questionable) poll.
by mue 26
Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:15 pm
 
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Re: Microsoft's regional exclusivity deal

Don't want to be rude but that's a bit of a wall of text which make its hard to read.
by Who Really Cares?
Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:18 pm
 
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Segabits: My Life with SEGA - Shenmue Review

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl60wMwVFEk[/youtube]
by Ziming
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:03 pm
 
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Re: VOTE SHENMUE 3 AS YOUR MOST WANTED XBOX 720 TITLE

Magazine editor comments on the poll:
Asked the @OXMUK Facebook group what should feature in the Durango reveal. Top of the list: Shenmue 3. Never stop believing.

Nearly 2000 votes now, almost doubling TimeSplitters 4.
by Let's Get Sweaty
Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:38 pm
 
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Re: Son Goku eraser?

Looked everywhere, there is no such thing
That kid is just lying to get his 100 yens
Image
by wude
Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:35 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show On The 2nd/3rd Of Ma

And tomorrow being the 3rd of the month, there'll be no shortage of evidence within easy reach. Just imagine if the MAGS organizers brought up a live Twitter search on a projector screen while Yu's on stage.
by Let's Get Sweaty
Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:20 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show On The 2nd/3rd Of Ma

Yu Suzuki déclare penser au Crownfunding type Kickstarter pour financer Shenmue 3 ! #MAGS

Yu Suzuki just said that he is thinking about a Kickstarter to fund the Shenmue 3 developement ! #MAGS

Here is the best translation I can give you all, this is great news ! :D

EDIT : This guy is legit, He works with pretty big independant french TV channel and is part of the event. He ask all the question directly to Yu ;)
by Shenman
Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:33 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show On The 2nd/3rd Of Ma

I'm quite confident a Shenmue 3 kickstarter would receive the largest pledge we've yet seen.
by mue 26
Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:12 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show

2nd part of my videos, the most interesting I believe:

http://youtu.be/8zbEmRLrhJE
Thank you for the videos. I'll summarize what Yu Suzuki said about Shenmue in Japanese as directly as possible. So, forgive me if some part would not sound natural for English.

*He named Virtua Fighter as the most memorable game of all his games, for he had to go through various hardships while making it. And, he added "Shenmue as well" at the end of the answer.

*He admitted that he regrets Shenmue III hasn't been made yet.

*He has no concrete plans for the next generation consoles, but he'd like to do something for them.

*About "the crowd-funding," he plainly said "there's such possibility," showing no particular interest.

*He wants to make Shenmue III for sure, if a good partner is found. He used the same phrase twice; "if circumstances allow." He's glad that French fans are still talking about Shenmue a lot.
by Kiyuu
Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:16 am
 
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Re: Microsoft's regional exclusivity deal

If Shenmue was released on the PlayStation 2, we'd have already seen the series properly conclude.
by Yama
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:52 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show

If you have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu_Suzuki#Games_Developed

I DON'T see the chart that he showed at the MAGS by himself (on the beamer screen). I'm sure there are other (French) people who have this footage available (just some patience, I'm sure it will be online some time).

I saw some games I wasn't known with. 3 Mobage Town Titles (one of them Shenmue Gai of course).
Maybe I'm wrong (or not), or maybe I wasn't aware of some of Yu's works (at the moment).

It's good to show Yu our support. The main reason I went to Monaco was to shake his hand, and get an autograph by myself on some Shenmue stuff. But another main reason was showing him my support (only to be there in person).
When Yu went to Monaco, no people interested for his autograph, no one interested in his talk, he really give us "the finger" and we will never see Shenmue.

I'm also a bit afraid about it's age. Shenmue 3 without Suzuki, I don't know where that will ending.

Edit: Maybe user: Belgiumfan does have the beamer screens on his Photocam.
by rdk_nl
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:33 am
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show

I may sound like an heretic, but.... Shenmue without Yu Suzuki? Why not. Let me explain.... Yu said the plot and project for the Shenmue saga got ready years and years ago. He has no experience about working on modern videogames tech.... his contribution would be invaluable, of course, but it'd be about the "feel" of the game, the little details. These are important for any Shenmue game but if his documents about the Shenmue project are detailed enough, other developers just have to follow them. Anyway I hope he can do Shenmue III himself. He deserves it and I understood it's important for him
So what if he doesn't have any experience with modern systems, neither does Hideo Kojima and look how people buy his milked out franchises time after time, just make up some stupid story about nanobots and the end of the world, put some WEAPONS in and it'll sell like crazy. If your game hasn't got weapons in it, it won't break the charts, crazy/stupid world we live in...
by AM2
Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:45 am
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show

This is just a tidbit about Yu Suzuki while he was in Monaco.
According to the following facebook page in Japanese, Yu-san took a tour of Côte d'Azur on March 1st.

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=208376462514654&story_fbid=568956586456638

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/Kiyuu/Monaco2013_2.jpg
Yu-san with Go Nagai, a famous animator, and the tour guide

As he wanted to stroll some old village with an ambience that would be suitable for a game, the guide took him to Dolceacqua . He liked the village very much and took a lot of pictures. Some day, we might stroll an old village like this in some video game. ;-)

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/Kiyuu/Dolceacqua38_-_Panorama_del_paese_vecchio.jpg
by Kiyuu
Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:38 pm
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show

Here a video of the complete conference of the Sunday March 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il8bSiWu_CA

Thank you for the video. Now that I can hear the Q&A part clearly, I've fixed the inaudible part in my translation.

Can you please add time stamps to the duration of each Shenmue question.

Time stamp example: Shenmue question 1 (8:40-9:00)
Japanese Translator: blablablabla (translation)
Yu Suzuki: blablablabla (translation)

Time stamp example: Shenmue question 2 (18:22-19:55)
Japanese Translator: blablablabla (translation)
Yu Suzuki: blablablabla (translation)

I can edit those parts together into a single video. Once together I can add English subtitles to each question, from original interviewer to the translator, and lastly Yu Suzuki.
by Ziming
Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:24 am
 
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Re: Yu Suzuki At Monaco Anime Game Show

Here a video of the complete conference of the Sunday March 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il8bSiWu_CA

Thank you for the video. Now that I can hear the Q&A part clearly, I've fixed the inaudible part in my translation.

Can you please add time stamps to the duration of each Shenmue question.
Here's the translation of the Shenmue related Q&A:

21:24-TR: What is the most memorable game to you?
21:29-YS: Every game is memorable to me. But, Virtua Fighter is the most memorable as it was
the hardest game to make, having had to go through various hardships. Shenmue as well.

24:01-TR: Is there any regrets?
24:04-YS: Ah... I hate this (kind of question.) Not having been able to make Shenmue III yet, of course.

24:43-TR: Do you have any plan or project for the next-generation consoles?
24:52-YS: I don't have any concrete plans, but I'd like to do something for them.

25:23-TR: What do you think about using the service like crowd-funding, such as Kickstarter?
25:33-YS: There's such possibility, I think.
(Here, the translator took the liberty of connecting the answer of YS with Shenmue III, and the MC got excited.)
15:47-YS: That was a leading question, wasn't it?

26:06-TR: Perhaps you've already been asked this a lot, but everybody wants to know it. How is Shenmue III
going at the moment?
26:17-YS: I want to make it for sure, if a good partner is found.
26:30-YS: If the circumstances allow, I want to make it.
26:41-TR: Everybody wants to help you in anyway.
26:45-YS: Thank you. Merci beaucoup.

26:51-YS: May I speak a little here? French fans, especially, have been caring about Shenmue a lot and
always ask me about Shenmue III. I'm very glad about it.
27:18-YS: I sincerely want to make it, if circumstances allow.

36:50-TR: Now, there's a rumor that Shenmue I or II will be playable soon by downloading with PSN or Xbox...
37:06-YS: Where is it from?
37:10-TR: Huh? He (the questioner) says so.
37:15-YS: Well, I don't get it. Every year a rumor says Shenmue III is coming. I wonder who is making it.

42:24-TR: Do you have a plan to make Shenmue HD?
42:50-YS: The license of Shenmue I and II belongs to SEGA. Now that I've left SEGA, it's not my decision,
but SEGA's, to remake and sell them like that. It'd be possible for SEGA, I guess.
43:27-YS: I could make anything related to Shenmue series, though, by getting the license from SEGA,
if they say OK.

45:10-TR: Instead of a video game, will there be any chance that you depict the story of Shenmue 3
in other forms, like movie or novel?
45:24-YS: There will be such possibilities, I think. Even in such forms I want to do something related to Shenmue.
by Kiyuu
Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:00 am
 
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Shenmue: Photo of Father

This is a cutscene you automatically get if you don't find the photo while searching the basement. It happen after the 70 man battle, before you leave the Hazuki residence.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_9xrRxdrZE[/youtube]
by Ziming
Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:35 am
 
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Re: Gaming Thoughts Of The Day 2.0

I played this: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/612107 and I found it special.
that was kind of fun, so does this mean I'm as smart as a lab monkey?
http://games.lumosity.com/chimp.html if you want to find out...
fucking chimp laughing at me at the end, it's only because I'm tired I did so poorly :mad: [...]
First one is fun. Second chimp one is fucking impossible.
Darwin is probably turning in his grave ...

You don't need to link to wiktionary. We know what that means. Although I'm not sure about some of the people here....

On second thought good job. Thank you for helping to continue the education of our lexically challenged community members.
All in all, it was of good intention. Based on this, I have added that link to avoid misunderstandings, because (as you said) some people probably does not know what that means [as I did not know before, too, that a phrase like that exists (also) in the English language]. Thank you for your understanding!

P.S.: I am not a native English speaker (nor I do have an English degree), therefore please correct me whether I fault, too.
I'm dumber than a lab monkey apparently and understood it so I think you're safe ;-)
by south carmain
Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:46 pm
 
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Universal video bbcode phpBB [video]

How about we update our current video bbcode? There is a newer version of bbcode which would allow us to view videos from other popular video sites. I would personally like the option to view YouTube playlists here, because all our Shenmue music and videos are organized using playlists from our YT channel.

http://phpbbex.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29

Supported video services

Currently the following video services are supported:

youtube.com (youtu.be) - playlists are also supported
vimeo.com
vk.com (vkontakte.ru) — the URL from the embed code is required
facebook.com
dailymotion.com
metacafe.com
video.google.com
video.yandex.ru — the URL from the embed code is required
myvideo.de
own3d.tv
clipfish.de
veevr.com
rutube.ru — it is recommended to use the URL from the embed code
video.mail.ru
smotri.com
video.qip.ru
video.bigmir.net
tvigle.ru — the URL from the embed code is required
video.online.ua
video.sibnet.ru
yapfiles.ru
megogo.net
intv.ru
lovi.tv
WebM, OGV and MP4 files via HTML5 <video> tag
by Ziming
Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:45 am
 
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Re: Shenmue 1080p

Yokosuka Martian wrote: Ryo teaches typing. I can just see that flying off shelves

The first level is dedicated entirely to the letters I and C.
by Let's Get Sweaty
Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:54 pm
 
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Re: GDC manager tweet rumors Shenmue 3 for PS4.

Hey these are seriously neat ideas folks, and these are terrifically exciting times - keep it up, guys!

Yep - and I also think Adam does a good job of summing up the immediate discussion surrounding the whole Suzuki X Cerny photo at GDC 2013 floating around the interwebs, currently (and of elaborating at length about what his views are on where he thinks the industry is potentially heading - interesting commentary, to say the least) to the public (well, at least the YouTube public) outside of our little bubble forum world here.

Yes, the biggest problem with the Dojo is *not* that its members and posters aren't passionate enough and don't make smart and credible observations - it's that the Dojo is just an audience of Shenmue fans for Shenmue fans. And it doesn't matter if fans give each other pats on the back - the challenge is trying to get the gaming audience/populace at large to notice our point(s). And as Adam says in his video - cheers to making sure we continue to talk Shenmue 3 (S3) everywhere and anywhere, especially now, given the supportive circumstances.

Now that that's out of the way, let's begin.

1) Given that Mark Cerny and Yu Suzuki are *actually* friends (at least close aqcuaintances, considering that both used to work at Sega at the same time - although not on the same projects - and thus at least share a friendship as professional colleagues), I don't think they just ran into each other randomly at GDC 2013. But I also don't think they met specifically to talk about S3 either. Rather, considering how well known the S3 matter is and how well acquainted the two are I want to suggest that Cerny at least passingly discusses the issue with Yu *almost every time* they manage to run into each other at events like GDC, E3, etc.

As in, Cerny sort of just asks Yu "hey, have any plans for S3 come further yet?". Now, I don't mean to say that Cerny asks that just to be flippant or to just come across as being interested in Yu's projects. Rather, I imagine he sincerely asks Suzuki this all the time to honestly catch up with his friend. That being said, I *do* fully believe that someone most likely overheard Cerny and Suzuki discussing the possibility of S3 for PS4 recently at GDC 2013 - but that that disucssion was most likely spontaneous and purely trivial in that it was just two friends chatting, catching up, and entertaining some optimistic possibiltiies for S3 now that the next generation has arrived, again.

On the other hand, given that Cerny did secretly become ( I imagine that Sony must have had him agree to non-disclosure clauses about his involvement with the PS4) the chief architect for PS4, and that this fact has only really been revealed to Suzuki now - it is not unfair to say that Cerny now might always be looking out for good fitting opportunities at Sony (if even at the very back of his mind) for his friend Suzuki to negotiate the Shenmue IP as being a good fit for the PS4 portfolio. As...

2) Yes, I don't think Shenmue any longer has any chance of being relevant on a Microsoft console - not as an exclusive, at least. Sure, Microsoft and the XBOX was the last known home of Shenmue (Shenmue 2 on XBOX) for the primary western market/audience in North America - but that is a *very* weak hand to play considering yes, just how poorly Xbox performs in Japan and just how poor Microsoft/Xbox's performance will most likely remain in Japan going forward. Given that, and considering just how abstract and complicated the S3 issue literally is, it is not difficult to believe that Microsoft is not at all willing to spend the necessary time and money to come through with some sort of exclusive-saviour deal for a next generation S3, considering that...

3) Sega has actually been traditionally *very* buddy-buddy with Sony since well, the PS2. Without Sony and the Playstation brand, Sega wouldn't have its current ongoing major cash crop successes with the Yakuza brand, Project Diva brand, and perhaps their Phantasy Star Online experience. Given this, it isn't hard to imagine that if Sega *had* to choose - surely they'd allow Suzuki to pursue further Shenmue related projects with Sony before anyone else.

I don't necessarily agree that S3 will never be possible for WiiU because Nintendo isn't interested - but more so because Shenmue doesn't fit culturally with more and more what Nintendo is trying to do with its console. Just as with our previous debates concerning S3 on Wii, S3 doesn't 'fit culturally' with the WiiU because from its core concept, S3 is not a title that relies on or would even benefit from, really, the integrated use of motion control, smart glass/tablet game control, or what have you that the WiiU focuses upon.

I'm not saying that Suzuki couldn't design S3 to benefit from utilizing those features, but I think most of us agree that Shenmue benefits most from being played and experienced as an as traditional, core cord and controller experience as possible. That isn't to disparage the core Shenmue experience or to say that it can't keep up with the times - but just like say Virtua Fighter will always be a controller/joystick experience, the core experience that Suzuki envisions with Shenmue is that of a fundamentally traditional gaming experience that doesn't involve any reliance on what are more or less tangential contrivances in motion control, Kinect, Move, etc.

And as coincidential as it seems, Sony out of the big 3 of Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony are seemingly trying to maintain themselves as *the home* for core, traditional gamers with the PS4. Like I say, Nintendo continues to escalate their evolution of motion control and remote play. This is not a bad thing - but Nintendo has always been eccentric; which is thankfully innovative and mind blowing, but *almost always* alienates them from every other third party publisher, forcing always the Nintendo first parties to struggle to make up for the deficit in software for their console. But - because those first party games are forced to adhere to the eccentricity of the home console, it becomes necessary to critique those games in their own category, which effectively separates WiiU from the realm of the PS4 and Xbox 720, and from the realm of core, traditional games - which is technically a good thing because this forces and drives innovation, but also effectively excludes S3 because S3 isn't made in the vision of such eccentricity, as noted previously.

While on the other hand, as much as many of us are Xbox fans, it seems like Microsoft is *really* keen on making the next Xbox a *social media* machine, what with its constant internet connection and mandatory Kinect functionality.

With the PS4 at least, it appears that if you still really wanted to, you *can* still just turn it on, put in a game, and just play it with your cord and controller - which is the tradition of gaming out of which Shenmue and S3 was born, and the core tradition of game playing that so many of us passionate gaming enthusiasts so desperately try to protect and preserve as the games industry continues to become more and more irrationally abstract and absurd going forward.

So yes, given that Sony might actually want to be promoting itself as the last true home of core, traditional gaming and surprisingly how much ongoing credibility S3 continues to command as one of the last great neigh mythic hardcore gaming experiences that still demands a proper sequel conclusion, Sony and Shenmue make a good fit. They also make a good fit because I actually see Sony *wanting* to devote the necessary resources to make Shenmue a success on Playstation. Sony has intererstingly traditionally been very receptive of 'gaming as art'. Jenova Chen of thatgamecompany (ie. Journey, Flower, etc.) recently said the same of the company, complimenting Sony for being very respectful of games being able to offer mature, artistic experiences while Microsoft 'just didn't seem like they actively promoted that kind of culture', even though Microsoft is easily very forward thinking about games as art too.

But seeing as Sony enjoys its ICOs, Shadow of the Colossuses, Journeys, Unfinished Swans, Quantic Dreams, Rains, Tokyo Jungles, AFRIKAs, etc., I think Sony has both the money and the relevant experience to develop and promote Shenmue *as something*. Especially how much Sony has always prided itself as fusing technology with 'emotion'. I'm not a graphics snob myself, but Shenmue was a game that always tried to be as photorealistic/realistic as possible - one of Suzuki's original visions was always to try and present fantasy and wonder in as real a setting/circumstances as possible, trying to prove that the Dreamcast was capable of making all the incredible things happening on the screen occur almost right before your eyes in real life.

For Sony to be able to make and prove their point in Shenmue, a game that focuses so much on accentuating facial expressions, mind boggling attention to authentic cultural and locational minutiae, system taxing massive living virtual eco-systems with hundreds of onscreen characters - each of which can be individually spoken to with unique recorded voice work - and AI schedules, all of which converges to present a spiritually emotional interactive experience for the gamer, then I think a Sony X Shenmue possibility could be a once in a lifetime opportunity that is unravelling right before our eyes. And finally,

4) I think the whole experience *has* to be in a single product as a so-called Shenmue Saga. Releasing *just* Shenmue 3 is too much of a risk - too much of a risk if gamers *don't* actually buy the digital re-releases of S1 and S2 leading up to S3's release, thus making S3 irrelevant right out of the gate. This is an all or nothing thing - either S3 gets made or it doesn't. We can't 'test the waters' with digital re-releases of S1 and S2 because that is too uncertain. People might download them and anticipate S3 or they might not.

But if we just bundle all of it together, the Saga markets itself. For those who are curious, the Saga is the only place to get the 3 games so they will have to buy it to experience them. For eternal fans like us, the Saga is an awesome love letter that conveniently houses the entire experience for which we have fought for for just so many years.

So. I apologise for the incredible length here, but my point is this: we need to be starting a new and fresh campaign that needs to be stronger than every one that has come before it. And the campaign is this: we have to play to Sony's reputation. We literally have to back Sony into a corner now where they have no choice but to act on Shenmue in order to save face, in competition with Microsoft and Nintendo. But how?

Well we have to start by drumming Sony up, by applauding them for being so unique from Microsoft for being such a patron of unique, mature, and artistic games like Journey, Unfinished Swan, Last Guardian, anything from Quantic Dreams (I know, I know - most of us here don't always see eye to eye with David Cage, myself included), etc. And then we must play to their emotions - let them know that a decade's worth of hopes and dreams from many thousands of core, traditional and mature gamers now look to Sony and their new PS4 as true salvation - that whereas Microsoft and Nintendo could never possibly do what we are pleading for, Sony can.

If we get this sensational enough, then Sony has to respond. Yes - the answer can most likely still be no, and then we'll have lost nothing, as long-suffering Shenmue fans. But if Sony answers with anything less than yes to S3, they stand to lose some reputation and credibility, especially if we apply so heavily to the apparent 'advantage' they command over their contemporaries in supporting and making high quality eccentrically artistic games.

And if it ever gets to this point, Sega will have no choice but to let Suzuki work on Shenmue again and jump once more into the rabbit hole, especially with this much media contention.

Terribly exciting - and scary - times indeed, my friends. Cheers.
by Wanderin'
Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:17 am
 
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Re: Gan! Gan! Pirates/Kaizokudan is on Google Play/iTunes St

And this is what I'm talking about, nobody would have saw this otherwise. Good stuff Giogio.
by Yama
Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:37 pm
 
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Re: Team Yu needs you!

I think there should really be a badge advertising the tweetathon on the front page. Similar to the Donate badge. Link it to a write-up about what you do and why it benefits Shenmue fans. Should really bring some traction to the campaign and, if you we're to go this route, wouldn't spam the front page news every third of the month.
by Crimson Ryan
Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:54 pm
 
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Re: Personally, I'd be excited if Ryo Hazuki...

Any chance of Ryo being in DOA5 is gone IMO. Don't think the game did well?

Sega need to do a Fighters Megamix 2 with VF, Shenmue, Fighting Vipers, Sonic and so on.
by Who Really Cares?
Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:01 pm
 
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Shenmue Voices: Fukuhara Masayuki

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPjiKLtUs1I[/youtube]
by Ziming
Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:57 pm
 
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Shenmue HD Music video

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfo7u9MGto[/youtube]
by Bluecast
Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:44 pm
 
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Re: Team Yu needs you!

A new post that might interest anyone who's still unclear on the purpose of the campaign: clicky
by Let's Get Sweaty
Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:05 pm
 
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Re: Did Shenmue have the best music ever?

I spent at least a year listening to Shenmue tunes every lunchtime on my walk to the supermarket and back. Everything else on my MP3 player would get old with regular play, but the Shenmue soundtrack is timeless. Every piece is rich with meaning, which just develops the more you hear it.

What not many people know is that every track in the game has lyrics. Here are two examples that were uncovered last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0cUXZiSHZs
by Let's Get Sweaty
Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:19 pm
 
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Re: Remix: ‘Tomato Tomahtoh’ – Shenmue

[By the way, what the real and only lyrics of Tomato Convenience Store's music (in Shenmue I) are saying? Are they Japanese lyrics? I only get the "... Tomato!" at the end of every loop...]

They're saying 「あなたのコンビニ、トマト・マート!」(Anata no Konbini, Tomato Ma-to!)
Translation: Your convenience store, Tomato Mart!
by ShenmueTree
Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:46 pm
 
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Re: Sega Japan All Star card packs, inc. Shenmue

And is Alex Kidd in that montage pic I really wanna see what artwork they've used for him, can't see him though.
Maybe I was just lucky to have formed my Alex Kidd perceptions on the graphics from Miracle World, but every time Sega illustrates how they remember their old mascot it makes me embarrassed to call myself a fan.

http://s18.postimg.org/6lo7sgb3t/image.jpg
by Let's Get Sweaty
Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:49 am
 
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts (Read OP Before Posting)

^ Snag Grandia II on DC. Best version. Great game. Well both are fantastic RPG's. Couple overlooked RPG's on DC is EGG and Timestalkers(Climax Landers) not as good as the other 2 but good games still.
by Bluecast
Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:28 pm
 
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Re: E3 2013 hype train starts now!

This is getting shown off tomorrow at an event but chances are it will be at E3 as well.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGGMv9RnJIA[/youtube]

Some of it looks cool while a few other bits look a bit too much.
by Who Really Cares?
Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:45 am
 
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Re: Look what is for sale on ebay! ryo watch.

This is his second warning for spamming his eBay auctions, and more or less contributing nothing to the forum. We dont mind eBay auctions or links to Shenmue related merchandise, but when you use here just to sell your stuff it will not be tolerated.
by Peter
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:52 pm
 
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Shenmue Dojo & First 4 Figures 70 Man Battle Competition

http://i.imgur.com/2g8Zx4m.jpg

Shenmue Dojo is proud to announce we are hosting a 70 man battle competition. The entry who achieves the fastest time will win a Exclusive Ryo Hazuki statue by First 4 Figures. Click here for rules and details.

Ryo Statue Preorder: Regular Edition | Exclusive Edition (Sold Out)
Videos: Teaser Trailer | Hype Trailer | Informative Video
by Ziming
Wed May 01, 2013 8:13 am
 
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Re: POLL: Ryo Statue

If it was cheaper I'd buy one, but statues don't interest me enough at this price.

To address some opinions I've read in various places, I think if you're keen on it then you should buy it, as with anything, but don't let anyone make you feel obliged to "support the franchise" by paying nearly $200 for something you don't particularly want. I get the "sending Sega a message" thing, but it's possible to send the wrong message as well, encouraging Sega to just milk blindly loyal fans for profit on licensed merchandise without ever having to invest in the game itself.

Buy it if it appeals to you at the price, but don't feel like you're "not a real fan" if it doesn't.
by Let's Get Sweaty
Thu May 02, 2013 3:15 am
 
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Re: POLL: Ryo Statue

I get the "sending Sega a message" thing, but it's possible to send the wrong message as well, encouraging Sega to just milk blindly loyal fans for profit on licensed merchandise without ever having to invest in the game itself.

^ I co-sign this. Buying this won't send Sega any worthwhile type of message. In fact, as Sweaty points out, and as someone on another forum pointed out to me, if this statue is successful, it's more than likely that the only message it will send to Sega is that they can milk Shenmue's long term and loyal fan base for a profit without making Shenmue 3 or Shenmue HD, and essentially just selling them easily produced tat (not that I'm saying this statue is tat, but you know what I mean) or renting the license to those who want to make tat from it. Ultimately, this means that the success of this statue won't bring us any closer to a Shenmue 3 from Sega, and will only take us further from potentially getting Sega to hand over the license, as it won't be quite so worthless any more.

I still like the statue, but I think Sweaty raises a very important point.
by mue 26
Thu May 02, 2013 12:37 pm
 
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Re: Team Yu needs you!

Legit?

Edit: Twitter's mobile site wasn't showing the Verified badge on his account, but the app does, so it's legit. Kavinsky has joined the Shenmue Tweetathon.
by Let's Get Sweaty
Fri May 03, 2013 8:32 am
 
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