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Postby FlagshipFighter » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:28 pm

I stumbled across this game the other day having just only heard of it. Looks amazing tbf, I hope the return of AA games stabilises (also, this is the first I've heard of a game developed from Belgium).

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Postby shredingskin » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:04 am

I think I've already said this in this forum before, but it's incredible how the first Broken Sword does really have that je ne sais quoi, about it.

It didn't matter that other games just had better graphics, 3d mechanics (that kinda hindered it), better voice acting, more puzzles, less puzzles, trying to match the music cues, trying to not match them, adding more content... There's something the first one did it just right.

I can't really get my head into it, and maybe it's nostalgia (when I was a kid it crashed before starting the second disk), but FUCK I just boot it, and there it is, it's fucking there. You just feel engaged by the fucking thing the second you start it. And it keeps you feeding stuff to make you love it even more.

I do really owe broken sword for the love I have for adventure games, really. It's just an unique genre.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts (Read OP Before Posting)

Postby shredingskin » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:38 am

shredingskin wrote: I think I've already said this in this forum before, but it's incredible how the first Broken Sword does really have that je ne sais quoi, about it.

It didn't matter that other games just had better graphics, 3d mechanics (that kinda hindered it), better voice acting, more puzzles, less puzzles, trying to match the music cues, trying to not match them, adding more content... There's something the first one did it just right.

I can't really get my head into it, and maybe it's nostalgia (when I was a kid it crashed before starting the second disk), but FUCK I just boot it, and there it is, it's fucking there. You just feel engaged by the fucking thing the second you start it. And it keeps you feeding stuff to make you love it even more.

I do really owe broken sword for the love I have for adventure games, really. It's just an unique genre.


And this post made me buy the revolution documentary... Well done.

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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts (Read OP Before Posting)

Postby FlagshipFighter » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:33 am

shredingskin wrote: I think I've already said this in this forum before, but it's incredible how the first Broken Sword does really have that je ne sais quoi, about it.

It didn't matter that other games just had better graphics, 3d mechanics (that kinda hindered it), better voice acting, more puzzles, less puzzles, trying to match the music cues, trying to not match them, adding more content... There's something the first one did it just right.

I can't really get my head into it, and maybe it's nostalgia (when I was a kid it crashed before starting the second disk), but FUCK I just boot it, and there it is, it's fucking there. You just feel engaged by the fucking thing the second you start it. And it keeps you feeding stuff to make you love it even more.

I do really owe broken sword for the love I have for adventure games, really. It's just an unique genre.


Completely agree, I too have so many great memories with the first two broken sword games (and monkey island 3). Love the super memorable characters (and goat!), rich atmosphere and craft in the environment and soundtrack, witty dialogue and a page-turning story. I'll admit I needed walk through in at certain parts when I first played them though lol.

I couldn't get into 3 and I stopped a third of the way into 4. I appreciated the level of ambition that they had at the time transitioning in the 3D era, but they never really engaged me in the same way (I heard 3 in particular had some pretty terrible stealth segments). Love Broken Sword 5 though, it was satisfying to play, looks beautiful and all-round was a really successful kickstarter.

I was kinda fascinated and happy to hear that the first/second port of the game on iOS sold a 2-ish million copies (I think the timing was perfect for them as it was the birth of the app store so things were relatively new, app prices weren't really defined via microtransactions and the dreamcast-equivalent power of the first/second iPhone was capable).

Also, I wasn't aware there was a documentary on it. Sweet thanks for letting me know, gonna check it out! Also i still have the save file for Broken Sword 4, I'm going to try to get back to where I left off last time (it's developed by sumo digital I believe, and the intro did show promise!).
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts (Read OP Before Posting)

Postby shredingskin » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:12 am

I think it's a paramount example of what adventure games are, in the sense that the genre doesn't relies on strong mechanics, so the difference between a good and a bad GA is pretty much "everything else".

Take for example the second game, it has pretty much everything the first one has, but it isn't nearly as good as the first one, even when you try to dissect it saying "better puzzles, better story" is quite an intangible feeling, and not really something you can actually point to because puzzles and story are so correlated (or at least should be).

Even the Director's cut, everything is in there, and even some more. But it just doesn't click the same, the new scenes are ok, but I think that lose the flow that the original had, and just suggesting that Nico was investigating that stuff ended up being more powerful and give the game a more focused direction than filling the blanks. Even if the original cutscene was there moved a little further in the game, kinda makes it lose the punch it packed.

Adventure games are such an amazing genre, that everything has to be there working in synchronicity: the dialogue, the music, the graphics, the locations, the puzzles, the story. Miss one beat and you have just a sprite walking around in a background, get it right and have some of the best examples of storytelling in any medium.

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Postby AnimeGamer183 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:25 pm

Reading reviews for Final Fantasy XII Zodiac Age and I think its safe to say the game was ahead of its time/could have been a PS3 game. I feel like everyone is looking back on it like its aged like fine wine, and this version is the best version to date. I do wanna buy it and check it out one day, its Collectors Edition should not be $200 though.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts (Read OP Before Posting)

Postby KiBa » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:33 am

FlagshipFighter wrote:(also, this is the first I've heard of a game developed from Belgium).


Belgium has produced one all-time classic masterpiece of action-adventure gaming plus its recent complete remake by the original team due out this fall: Outcast and Outcast: Second Contact. It was the big sci-fi Zelda back in 1999. It was supposed to be a big title on the Dreamcast, but it got canceled at the last minute just like Shenmue 2. It had unique voxel-based graphics and has an amazing look and story. I will never forget exploring the planet Adelpha. It felt like a living world. I carried both a Shenmue cutout and an Outcast cutout from a 1999 EGM in my wallet for years. Those were the two games I was most excited about at the time and the top reasons I bought a Dreamcast. Ultimately, I got Outcast on PC, and loved it, so it all worked out. Still would've preferred a Dreamcast version.

The game is full of self-deprecating jokes about Belgium because its the only game the country ever produced. Till now, apparently. That's why I remembered it when you mentioned you'd never heard of a Belgian game. Outcast has some of the best openworld gameplay of all time, especially considering its age, and in many ways remains unsurpassed. The script is great, story is great, music is incredible. I can't say enough good things about it. I'd highly recommend the PC+PS4+XB1 remake coming out soon, assuming its just a graphics update as advertized. Every gaming convention I've ever been in, to this day, has someone in the iconic
orange Ulukai shirt. It's a cult classic. Now you know. The Yods will be with you, always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outcast_(video_game)

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In many ways, the cult status and troubled development of the Outcast franchise mirrored the Shenmue series. Outcast 2 was infamously cancelled just before release, leaving one of the worst cliffhangers in video game history forever unresolved. At least Shenmue was resurrected, and I'm glad between the two, the one dearer to my little heart was saved from the universal ash in my lifetime. Still, it's a shame we didn't get Outcast 2. All my favorite games were not profitable enough back before the gaming market diversified via crowdfunding and better use of the internet as a market. Those that lived on over the last decade were completely reimagined till they appealed to many different segments of gamers, and are no longer recognizable (Deus Ex). So, it's lucky Shenmue stayed dead long enough to come back as itself instead of being transformed into something else we never wanted. Maybe the same will happen to Outcast, should the remake make a profit.

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Postby FlagshipFighter » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:45 am

KiBa wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outcast_(video_game)
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Kiba this has got to be one of the best reply posts I've ever received and was an absolute pleasure to read, thank you!

The first time I heard of this game was when the kickstarter for the HD remake came about. It looked mesmerising and just reading about the tech behind it was super fascinating. I was thinking of backing it, but sadly I think the whole thing fell through.

Completely forgotten about it since, if it had stealthily came out I still think I would have given it one glance and a miss since these days it's hard to judge a game without a demo/trial + the overwhelming amount of stuff that comes out. But after reading your post I am totally sold and curious to find out more about it when it hits consoles. The game looks stunning in that trailer and looks to be a very faithful remake too. It's fascinating to hear how much of a community there has been for this game over the years as well as their accomplishments in terms of patching/improving the game experience and making entirely newer version. Looking forward to it!

Also, love the music in your signature dude, what a great game that is! Still need to play the 3rd entry that came on console a few months ago though.

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Postby KiBa » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:32 am

I have not yet played the next TLJ/Dreamfall either. I have high hopes. And, yes, the Outcast community isn't as big as Shenmue's, but they have done a good job keeping it alive. Version 1.1 is solid for running the original on new hardware, but the remake should obsolete that. I hope.
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Postby Axm » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:37 am

Turned my Xbox One on today just to make sure its still working..pfft.. stupid $500 pos.

You know it's really quite sad that I've had an Xbox One since midnight launch and I have a total of 3 exclusive games I've cared to play on it. Forza 5, Sunset Overdrive and Halo 5.
It's almost laughable that I've had a Switch for only 3 weeks and already have more games for it than my XBO and it's a Switch! Haha It has hardly any games and already its stolen more of my time away from the PS4 than the Xbox did in over 3 years!

The state of Xbox is sad. Who the hell even cares about the Xbox One Xxx420BlazexxX here? Do you even 1st party bro?

And what the HELL is still up with this UI? You know after 3 years it seems to have gotten just WORSE over time. I mean am I on twitter or the freaking Microsoft Surface tablet? This is still a game system right? Why am I still struggling to find where my games are hidden... oh! right there a tiny box next to the Pre-order Call of Duty WWII advert. Oh am I supposed to like "pin" it to the bottom of the rows of other bullshit? Fuuuuck this system.
Give me one more year without any worth while exclusive and its sold to another baka gaijin for a PSVR and some paper towels.
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Postby Amir » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:11 am

Axm wrote:
Give me one more year without any worth while exclusive and its sold to another baka gaijin for a PSVR and some paper towels.


Sell it now before the Xbox One X comes out and get a PS VR + Rez Infinite.
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