Ryo opens train door - unused animation

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Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby Switch » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:51 am

While digging around in a file of Ryo's animations I came across one that sounded interesting, named AKI_AKI_TRAIN_DOOR, so I hooked it up to trigger within the game. Here's how it looks:

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Although it's a fairly straight-forward animation, from the naming my guess is that it may have been made for use in the "train" chapter that Yu Suzuki had planned for after Ryo left Hong Kong. The animation would fit for the situation when Ryo is moving between two carriages on a train through a sliding door (with the door sliding shut behind him).

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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby scarless landi » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:15 am

Great find! The amount of unused assets is astonishing.

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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby BlueMue » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:19 pm

It looks almost identical to the animation for sliding house doors at first glance, but Ryo makes a much bigger step than normal.

This is a great find! I wasn't expecting that there would be some reference to the train left in the game. Then again What's Shenmue was still pretty early in the developement of the saga and it seems they haven't ditched the idea there yet.

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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby shengoro86 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:37 pm

This is such a great find. Great work Switch!!!!!!

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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby south carmain » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:49 pm

Interesting that a planned shenmue 2 animation is in shenmue 1. Makes you wonder how much of the second game was completed when the first was released.

On a related note it would have been great if they had left the train segment in. I guess they had already pushed the gd-roms to their size limits though.
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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby Radar » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:18 am

south carmain wrote: Interesting that a planned shenmue 2 animation is in shenmue 1. Makes you wonder how much of the second game was completed when the first was released.

Yeah.. They even have Ren's low poly model with transparent textures left in first game.
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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby ShenGCH » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:31 am

Excellent find, Switch! From the looks of it, Ryo, as you suggested, appears to be walking between carriages, especially as the step he takes following the 'opening' is a pretty big one; as if he's stepping over the gap between the two.

Maybe the idea is that Ryo has to work his way down to a particular carriage in order to find an exit hatch in the ceiling, use that to climb on top of the train, and at some point after doing so, this happens:

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Could there be a person of interest in a guarded carriage, and the only way Ryo is able to make contact with them is by infiltrating in this way?

Reminds me of Broken Sword :D

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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby Peter » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:06 am

Every time I think of a scenario with that train, I always come back to it being some private Chiyoumen train, like the one Trevelyan had in Goldeneye.

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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby shengoro86 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:02 am

Peter wrote: Every time I think of a scenario with that train, I always come back to it being some private Chiyoumen train, like the one Trevelyan had in Goldeneye.

ditto
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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby south carmain » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:29 am

That or Ryo was avoiding border patrol because he didnt have a visa lol
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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby Switch » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:51 am

ShenGCH wrote:Maybe the idea is that Ryo has to work his way down to a particular carriage in order to find an exit hatch in the ceiling, use that to climb on top of the train, and at some point after doing so, this happens:

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Could there be a person of interest in a guarded carriage, and the only way Ryo is able to make contact with them is by infiltrating in this way?

Reminds me of Broken Sword :D

I was watching the snippet of train video from Project Berkley again, and noticed something I hadn't before.

To me it looks as if Ryo is falling facing upwards (may have been pushed?) towards the speeding train from somewhere at the side. He just has time to twist around to grab on to part of the carriage with a single hand, clinging on for dear life as his legs are swept behind him.

Here is the sequence, slowed down:
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Re: Ryo opens train door - unused animation

Postby ShenGCH » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:31 am

Switch wrote:
ShenGCH wrote:Maybe the idea is that Ryo has to work his way down to a particular carriage in order to find an exit hatch in the ceiling, use that to climb on top of the train, and at some point after doing so, this happens:

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Could there be a person of interest in a guarded carriage, and the only way Ryo is able to make contact with them is by infiltrating in this way?

Reminds me of Broken Sword :D

I was watching the snippet of train video from Project Berkley again, and noticed something I hadn't before.

To me it looks as if Ryo is falling facing upwards (may have been pushed?) towards the speeding train from somewhere at the side. He just has time to twist around to grab on to part of the carriage with a single hand, clinging on for dear life as his legs are swept behind him.

Here is the sequence, slowed down:
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Wow, this adds a whole new layer to things! Yeah, he definitely looks as though he has been pushed/kicked/punched from a train on the next set of tracks. Judging from the way Ryo travels through the air, can it be safe to assume both trains are heading in the same direction? I know this is unconventional for trains, but I'm no expert as far as Chinese train lines go (nor do I have any reason or explanation for why I would be :P), so this is a possibility.

If, however, the trains are travelling in opposite directions, as per the convention, perhaps there will be a QTE section whereby Ryo has to jump back onto the train he was previously launched from before the tracks divert and Ryo loses it forever?

In any case, I guess that means train roof fight/QTE confirmed :)
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