Real Locations

(Chapters 3-6)

Postby Supa » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:32 am

There are some things to visit in Wan Chai, like the Hong Kong Convention & Exhibition Center, the Museum, the Xinyi Hall, where the ceremony marking Hong Kong's return to China was held in 1997. and Bauhinia Square. You can also visit Causeway Bay, which is a major Wan Chai shopping center.

And about Kowloon, it actually was a walled city.

"The history of the Walled City (known as Kowloon then) can be traced back to the Song Dynasty, where it served as a watchpost defending the area against pirates and managing the production of salt. It was rebuilt as a fort in the mid-1800s on the same site on the Kowloon Peninsula of Hong Kong. After the ceding of Hong Kong Island to Britain in 1842 in accordance to the Treaty of Nanjing, the Qing (Chinese) authorities felt it necessary for them to establish a military/administrative post to rule the area and to check further British influence in the area.


Kowloon Walled City, 1915The Convention for the Extension of Hong Kong Territory of 1898 which handed additional parts of Hong Kong (the New Territories) to Britain for 99 years excluded the Walled City, with a population of roughly 700, and stated that China could continue to keep troops there, so long as they did not interfere with Britain's temporary rule. Britain quickly went back on this unofficial part of the agreement, attacking Kowloon Walled City in 1899, only to find it deserted. They did nothing with it nor to the outpost, and thus sent the question of Kowloon Walled City's ownership squarely into the air. The outpost consisted of a yamen, as well as other buildings (which eventually grew into a low-lying, densely packed neighborhood within the walls), in the era between the 1890s and the 1940s. The enclave remained part of Chinese territory despite the turbulent events of the early 20th century that saw the fall of the Qing government, establishment of a Republic of China in 1911 and later, the People's Republic of China in 1949.

The Walled City remained a curiosity - and a tourist attraction where British colonials and tourists could have a taste of the old China - until 1940, when during its WWII occupation of Hong Kong, Japan evicted people from the city, and then demolished much of the city - including the wall - to provide building materials for the nearby Kai Tak Aerodrome."

"By the early 1980s, Kowloon Walled City had an estimated population of 35,000. Being a lawless land, the city was notorious for its excess of brothels, casinos, opium dens, cocaine parlours, food courts serving dog meat, and secret factories. The Kowloon Walled City was also infamous for its ridiculously high number of unsanitary dentist clinics, since this was where unlicensed dentists could operate without prosecution.


[edit] Evacuation and demolition

Kowloon Walled City before its demolition.Over time, both the British and the Chinese governments found the massive, anarchic city to be increasingly intolerable - despite the low reported crime rate. The quality of life in the city, sanitary conditions in particular, was far behind the rest of Hong Kong.

After the Joint Declaration in 1984, the PRC agreed with British authorities to demolish the City and resettle its inhabitants. The mutual decision to tear down the walled city was made in 1987.

At that time, it had 50,000 inhabitants on 0.026 km², and therefore a very high population density of 1,900,000 / km². It was allegedly the most densely populated spot on Earth.

Evacuations started in 1991 and were completed in 1992. The government spent up to HK$ 3 billion to resettle the residents and shops. Some residents were not satisfied with the compensation, and some even obstructed the demolition in every possible way.

The 1993 movie Crime Story starring Jackie Chan was partly made in the deserted Walled City, and includes real scenes of building explosions. Kowloon Walled City was destroyed in the same year. Also, as the Walled City was beginning to be torn down, a group of Japanese explorers took about a week to tour the empty walled city, making a sort of map and a cross section of the city.[2]

After the demolition, a park was built in its place with construction started in May 1994."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City
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Postby YingmanJai » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:47 am

Shenmaster777 wrote:There are some things to visit in Wan Chai, like the Hong Kong Convention & Exhibition Center, the Museum, the Xinyi Hall, where the ceremony marking Hong Kong's return to China was held in 1997. and Bauhinia Square. You can also visit Causeway Bay, which is a major Wan Chai shopping center.

And about Kowloon, it actually was a walled city.

"The history of the Walled City (known as Kowloon then) can be traced back to the Song Dynasty, where it served as a watchpost defending the area against pirates and managing the production of salt. It was rebuilt as a fort in the mid-1800s on the same site on the Kowloon Peninsula of Hong Kong. After the ceding of Hong Kong Island to Britain in 1842 in accordance to the Treaty of Nanjing, the Qing (Chinese) authorities felt it necessary for them to establish a military/administrative post to rule the area and to check further British influence in the area.


Kowloon Walled City, 1915The Convention for the Extension of Hong Kong Territory of 1898 which handed additional parts of Hong Kong (the New Territories) to Britain for 99 years excluded the Walled City, with a population of roughly 700, and stated that China could continue to keep troops there, so long as they did not interfere with Britain's temporary rule. Britain quickly went back on this unofficial part of the agreement, attacking Kowloon Walled City in 1899, only to find it deserted. They did nothing with it nor to the outpost, and thus sent the question of Kowloon Walled City's ownership squarely into the air. The outpost consisted of a yamen, as well as other buildings (which eventually grew into a low-lying, densely packed neighborhood within the walls), in the era between the 1890s and the 1940s. The enclave remained part of Chinese territory despite the turbulent events of the early 20th century that saw the fall of the Qing government, establishment of a Republic of China in 1911 and later, the People's Republic of China in 1949.

The Walled City remained a curiosity - and a tourist attraction where British colonials and tourists could have a taste of the old China - until 1940, when during its WWII occupation of Hong Kong, Japan evicted people from the city, and then demolished much of the city - including the wall - to provide building materials for the nearby Kai Tak Aerodrome."

"By the early 1980s, Kowloon Walled City had an estimated population of 35,000. Being a lawless land, the city was notorious for its excess of brothels, casinos, opium dens, cocaine parlours, food courts serving dog meat, and secret factories. The Kowloon Walled City was also infamous for its ridiculously high number of unsanitary dentist clinics, since this was where unlicensed dentists could operate without prosecution.


[edit] Evacuation and demolition

Kowloon Walled City before its demolition.Over time, both the British and the Chinese governments found the massive, anarchic city to be increasingly intolerable - despite the low reported crime rate. The quality of life in the city, sanitary conditions in particular, was far behind the rest of Hong Kong.

After the Joint Declaration in 1984, the PRC agreed with British authorities to demolish the City and resettle its inhabitants. The mutual decision to tear down the walled city was made in 1987.

At that time, it had 50,000 inhabitants on 0.026 km², and therefore a very high population density of 1,900,000 / km². It was allegedly the most densely populated spot on Earth.

Evacuations started in 1991 and were completed in 1992. The government spent up to HK$ 3 billion to resettle the residents and shops. Some residents were not satisfied with the compensation, and some even obstructed the demolition in every possible way.

The 1993 movie Crime Story starring Jackie Chan was partly made in the deserted Walled City, and includes real scenes of building explosions. Kowloon Walled City was destroyed in the same year. Also, as the Walled City was beginning to be torn down, a group of Japanese explorers took about a week to tour the empty walled city, making a sort of map and a cross section of the city.[2]

After the demolition, a park was built in its place with construction started in May 1994."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City


Well I can't really argue with that too much, as I have always held a great respect for the accuracy of the Wikipaedia site. however I do still feel there is a form of confusion somewhere along the lines as neither my wife nor I, residents of Hong Kong for 22 years, are aware of a "Walled City", and you have to remember all of Hong Kong is about the size of London, so it's not like we could miss it. I doubt there is a single Hong Kong resident who hasn't seen every last inch of Hong Kong. However I am open to the possibility of this "walled city" being so named by outsiders, rather than the Chinese, and in fact it is something other than the name suggests. This being the case, I am sure you can understand my confusion. I will look into this further and get back to you.

But BTW, thanks for the info! :)
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Postby Supa » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:28 am

No problem.

Some of us are willing to help you, it just might not seem like it. Don't forget most of us here, especially Kiyuu, are not evil and out to get you. Please treat us with respect, and we will treat you with respect. You seem like a cool guy to get to know and I'm sure you are, but most haven't given you the chance because they didn't get the respect they needed/wanted. :)
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Postby Chan » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:29 pm

Kiyuu wrote:Ah, nice pictures, Chan-san! Chicago Bulls' souvenir in Hong Kong? :lol:
Where's Fangmei (芳梅)? Seriously, the inside of the temple looks a bit brighter
than I expected. Because of the flash? Anyway, thank you for posting them!


Fangmei was there holding the camera :D
Yes it wasn't that bright. I used flash. But it's not too dark neither.
If you come to Hong Kong I can show you there and get you a Chicago Bulls souvenir :D
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Postby Chan » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:01 am

Hello I just found two photos of my grandmother and father went to the Kowloon Walled City back in 1991.
Enjoy! ;)
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Postby KoroshiyaIchi » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:37 am

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Postby CHANCE-PHOENIX » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:25 pm

Damn , I was so obsessed with Shenmue that I even bought a ticket to Hong-Kong to relive that Shenmue 2 feeling (to drink soft-drinks from the vending-machine, visited the Man-Mo temple ...went to Hong-Kong Island in search of Lan-Di ...lol .... *sigh*
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A young man who has yet to know his potential.

This potential is a power that could either destroy him

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The path he must traversed brought with adversity.

I await whilst praying, for this destiny

predetermined since ancient times.

Awaiting in anticipation. A dragon emerges from

the earth as ominous clouds fill the sky.

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trailing purple from its wings. The pitch-black

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And thus, the saga begins..... "

I DEMAND A SHENMUE 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Kiyuu » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:55 pm

CHANCE-PHOENIX wrote:Damn , I was so obsessed with Shenmue that I even bought a ticket to Hong-Kong to relive that Shenmue 2 feeling (to drink soft-drinks from the vending-machine, visited the Man-Mo temple ...went to Hong-Kong Island in search of Lan-Di ...lol .... *sigh*

Lucky you! And, thank you for the pictures! :o

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Postby HappyKillmore » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:21 pm

^I agree, i'd love to be able to afford a trip like that. Was that the actual Man Mo Temple?
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Postby HappyKillmore » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:23 pm

Wait a sec, is that actually hong kong? i thought perrier was a french company :?:
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Postby DutchBoy » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:07 pm

nice pics
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Postby Cinostic » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:08 am

DutchBoy wrote:nice pics


inderdaad mooie foto's
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Postby Bluecast » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:27 am

How about a hi rez pic of ALL of Hong Kong.(click it to see it full size) :)
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Postby Cinostic » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:50 am

wow nice pic! not like in the game bud it's very nice :)
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Postby R3N » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:43 am

Well those videos will surely interest most of you

This the most important video you have to watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBJYLtMuEOE
Kowloon Videos

I can't Believe it!!! I had seen Bloodsport movie many times before and I never knew that they had a scene based in Kowloon!!!!!
But then again I watched it before I even played Shenmue and was still a child.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEo6ogAnoZ8&NR=1



This is a video of some guy walking inside Kowloon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSnvqBhWUOc

I think He says kowloon :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIgCJbSDaOg

Farewell Kowloon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTqPPMDPoBk

Wow Live scene of shenmue 2? Airplane scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyU9OLqQ8XA


Aberdeen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9g5GQnsB0M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N3gHIYbtzI

Hey is that Wong? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qzQJVYkY28

Fishing in Aberdeen :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2wZfuc6g50


Old Aberdeen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVEGCjsWC14

Wan Chai

Shenmue II bridge?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heLNpXV0eOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pfy_ZpaNCQ

Golden Qr ? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouDt7qFIPs8

Wan chai fight lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKN0yUdBouU


The real Gui Ling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlhWaaXZa8

BEST VIDEO EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can see people wearing cloths like Shenshua Parents in video at 6:02 and shenmue Tree too lol I think...at 5:52

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBJYLtMuEOE


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