Shenmue Dojo

tomboz wrote:

Esppiral wrote: I totally lost my hopes, honestly I thought that MS was the only one able to moneyhat Shenmue, after the conference..., bye Ryo T_T

The real kick in the teeth was Phil Spencer's closing remarks in which he harped on about how Microsoft listened to what people wanted and had backed games accordingly. Given that he's openly acknowledged that Shenmue is the biggest request they receive I can't help but question his motives.

What he should have said is; 'We listen to requests to an extent but will only support projects with minimal risk attached'. From a business point of view I understand the reasoning - but why ask what people want when we're going to end up with Assassins Creed, Halo, GOW and COD et al regardless? Ultimately today's generation will buy whatever you put in front of them providing it has blood and killing. Until that changes the idea that gamers have any say over what gets made by big developers is little more than an illusion.

CodingGenesis wrote: True. But let's not forget that Shenmue is a request made by fans. What does it help that Shenmue is in the top 3 on both lists if Sega does not want to make a game. Shenmue is Sega's IP after all and as long as they don't make an announcement or show interest in making another Shenmue, there is nothing Sony and Microsoft could possibly do. Don't get me wrong, I understand you and I, too, had slight hope, but let's put everything into perspective. It's Sega's decision what the future of Shenmue will be and no press conference of any system owner will change that. It's neither Sony's nor Microsoft's decision to make another Shenmue (or a Shenmue remake). It's solely up to Sega.

Giorgio wrote:
SEGA says they'll trade exclusivity for Shenmue funding

tomboz wrote:Shenmue sold over 1.2m copies on a console which sold little over 10m units. That equates to more than 10% of Dreamcast owners purchasing the game. Had the game been released on a more successful consoles it could have potentially broken records.

Let's say, for example, that Shenmue had been a launch title on the PS2 instead of a Dreamcast game. The PS2 sold over 155m units over it's lifespan and so taking our 12% sales per console figure we're looking at around 18.6m copies sold - which would have beaten GTA San Andreas' 17.33m sales and made it the best selling game on the PS2 (Considering GTA SA was the sixth game in a hugely successful franchise - that's pretty damn impressive for an new ip). Add in the fact that the better launch games tend to get a boost in sales due to the limited variety available at launch as well as the exponential growth in sales through word of mouth - and Shenmue could have easily sold 20m+ units on PS2.

Had it not been released on a dying/dead console (or not released at all in the case of the US) I've no doubt Shenmue 2 would have outsold the original due to several areas being drastically improved (the GTA series has shown a steady increase in sales per release as gameplay has improved) and so it's entirely possible that the games would have clocked in 45m+ sales which would have equated to about $1 development and marketing costs per copy sold and in turn - HUGE profits.

Himuro wrote: Guys.

It's fucking nothing.

This thread is why the Shenmue fanbase and the games themselves are considered a joke by gamers. Nothing is going to happen.

elfshadowreaper wrote:

I don't think I ever responded to this but I'm so glad you broke it down the way you did. That really shows how successful Shenmue was on the DC and how successful it potentially could have(SHOULD HAVE) been on another console. Microsoft and Sega should have properly released Shenmue 1 on the Xbox and then followed that up with Shenmue 2. I think if they had done that Shenmue would have an entirely different history.

Giorgio wrote: https://twitter.com/TMK87/status/476354154110414848

mue 26 wrote: Fuck you are a depressing bunch. Why would he want to make you think he's considering it unless he actually is? You think he just likes getting bombarded with tweets from hundreds of Shenmue fans? The guy isn't a troll for fucks sake.