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Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:59 am
by Kiske
Anonymous81 wrote: Some slight cause for hope!


There are two options about this part of the article in my opinion.

1. It's some elaborate fake for clickbait/buzz.
2. The Sega Europe marketing director Jon Rooke actually said something close to "Sega is exploring ways to re-release the original two Shenmue titles."
Maybe said it to soon, of records or by mistake, who knows...

I asked directly Jon Rooke about this article. Even if I doubt he's going to answer me back, I had to try.

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:38 am
by freakycritter
Giorgio wrote:
«Admitting that Sega has not done a “great job over the last four years” in communicating its brand values»

Only? Especially after SEGA was taken over by SAMMY, showing the exit door to their legendary creators and ignoring old consumers.

«I think the buzz around Shenmue 3 shows that people love our legacy,”»

What? SEGA-SAMMY did Not make a single free tweet or post to promote the Shenmue 3 Kickstarter and now they want to take the credit for the created buzz? That is a shame. And, no; I love Yu Suzuki's legacy, not SAMMY's profit-first brand values.


lol, its called Sega, not Sega Sammy.

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:29 am
by lebanesejets
Also saw this link today... doesn't add much to the topic though (sort of? kind of?):

http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/27/sega-talk ... s-5464384/

He wasn’t very specific about Sega’s plans but did sort-of confirm kind of remaster for Shenmue I and II, adding: ‘I think the buzz around Shenmue III shows that people love our legacy’.

Considering the length and age of the first two Shenmue games it’s not going to be cheap or easy to re-release them, but then Shenmue III won’t be out for a while so they can take their time.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/27/sega-talk ... z3plqYlK83

also:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/shenmue-remast ... es-1525868

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/shenmue_3 ... eport.html

http://www.vg247.com/2015/10/27/sega-is ... enmue-1-2/

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:36 am
by fittersau
Say what you will about all this baiting, at least Shenmue is being talked about by others besides the hard core fans.

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:37 am
by Monkei
lebanesejets wrote: Also saw this link today... doesn't add much to the topic though (sort of? kind of?):

http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/27/sega-talk ... s-5464384/

He wasn’t very specific about Sega’s plans but did sort-of confirm kind of remaster for Shenmue I and II, adding: ‘I think the buzz around Shenmue III shows that people love our legacy’.

Considering the length and age of the first two Shenmue games it’s not going to be cheap or easy to re-release them, but then Shenmue III won’t be out for a while so they can take their time.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/27/sega-talk ... z3plqYlK83

also:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/shenmue-remast ... es-1525868

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/shenmue_3 ... eport.html

http://www.vg247.com/2015/10/27/sega-is ... enmue-1-2/


I can't believe how badly that article is written. What is it with these crap sites? And how is that Shenmue III quote (if it's even real) kind of confirming re-releases of I and II? ](*,)

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:45 am
by Monkei
fittersau wrote: Say what you will about all this baiting, at least Shenmue is being talked about by others besides the hard core fans.


Well, yeah, kind of true. But it would be nice if at least a few well-written articles from reputable sites were among those others for a change.

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:01 am
by Peter
So anyone wanna fill me in. Fake? Not fake? Anyone have any clue?

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:07 am
by Kiske
Monkei wrote:
lebanesejets wrote: Also saw this link today... doesn't add much to the topic though (sort of? kind of?):

http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/27/sega-talk ... s-5464384/

He wasn’t very specific about Sega’s plans but did sort-of confirm kind of remaster for Shenmue I and II, adding: ‘I think the buzz around Shenmue III shows that people love our legacy’.

Considering the length and age of the first two Shenmue games it’s not going to be cheap or easy to re-release them, but then Shenmue III won’t be out for a while so they can take their time.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/27/sega-talk ... z3plqYlK83

also:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/shenmue-remast ... es-1525868

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/shenmue_3 ... eport.html

http://www.vg247.com/2015/10/27/sega-is ... enmue-1-2/


I can't believe how badly that article is written. What is it with these crap sites? And how is that Shenmue III quote (if it's even real) kind of confirming re-releases of I and II? ](*,)


Yet another website using but not accurately quoting what appears to be the original source:
http://www.marketingweek.com/2015/10/12 ... artphones/ (Where the line concerning Shenmue 1 & 2 can be found actually...)

This just adds confusion to an already highly confused situation.

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Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:12 am
by Kiske
Peter wrote: So anyone wanna fill me in. Fake? Not fake? Anyone have any clue?


Well, IF we assume the original article from Marketing Week has not been hacked then It's not fake.

Since the phrase "Sega is exploring ways to re-release the original two Shenmue titles" is not quoted as Jon Rooke exact words unlike most of the interview, I still have my doubts about this beeing an interpretation from MW.

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:25 am
by Chakan
Kiske wrote:
Peter wrote: So anyone wanna fill me in. Fake? Not fake? Anyone have any clue?


Well, IF we assume the original article from Marketing Week has not been hacked then It's not fake.

Since the phrase "Sega is exploring ways to re-release the original two Shenmue titles" is not quoted as Jon Rooke exact words unlike most of the interview, I still have my doubts about this beeing an interpretation from MW.


I think that's the thing to keep in mind for now, I had updated my original article with the same thought. Even if the article is accurate as the author intended, it's still not a direct quote from Jon Rooke stating there's a re-release in the works.

In the meantime, multiple people have reached out to Jon Rooke and SEGA Europe for confirmation. I've reached out to Sega, Rooke, and Thomas Hobbs, the author of the article, to verify the article's accuracy and to ask if Rooke did in fact say anything at all about it.

Meanwhile, the regular games media runs it as fact without hesitation, despite what the fan press has already ran into creating some doubts.

I guess we'll see what the truth of the matter is eventually.


Also, I was very surprised to see I didn't have an account here. I though I made one a decade and a half ago!

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:18 am
by Chakan
I received a response from Thomas Hobbs regarding the article. I've posted my story here.

The exact response he was given was

"There are lots of opportunities for legacy titles. We are exploring. We know what fans want as they have a petition."


Hopefully Sega sees the fanfare over the past day and feels prompted to do something, though!

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:27 am
by Kiske
Chakan wrote: I received a response from Thomas Hobbs regarding the article. I've posted my story here.

The exact response he was given was

"There are lots of opportunities for legacy titles. We are exploring. We know what fans want as they have a petition."


Hopefully Sega sees the fanfare over the past day and feels prompted to do something, though!


Got the same answer from him on Twitter, since I'm @KosiCosa.

No direct mention to Shenmue 1 & 2 in Jon Rooke answer indeed.

At least the situation is (somewhat) less confusing now...

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:11 am
by mjq jazz bar
So the line from the article wasn't a fabrication (vindication!), but it didn't actually come from anything the guy from Sega Europe said (bummer). Oh well. Still a step in the right direction.

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:21 am
by Gavan
Chakan wrote: I received a response from Thomas Hobbs regarding the article. I've posted my story here.

The exact response he was given was

"There are lots of opportunities for legacy titles. We are exploring. We know what fans want as they have a petition."


Hopefully Sega sees the fanfare over the past day and feels prompted to do something, though!


Actually this DOES sound to me like they are "exploring" re-releasing Shenmue 1 and 2. The petition he refers to is likely the one for Shenmue HD. Reason to be very optimistic IMHO \:D/

Re: Sega Europe comments on Shenmue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:23 am
by Kiske
Gavan wrote:
Chakan wrote: I received a response from Thomas Hobbs regarding the article. I've posted my story here.

The exact response he was given was

"There are lots of opportunities for legacy titles. We are exploring. We know what fans want as they have a petition."


Hopefully Sega sees the fanfare over the past day and feels prompted to do something, though!


Actually this DOES sound to me like they are "exploring" re-releasing Shenmue 1 and 2. The petition he refers to is likely the one for Shenmue HD. Reason to be very optimistic IMHO \:D/


Which one? I've signed several petitions for Shenmue HD in the last month #-o