Shenmue 3 maybe done.

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Shenmue 3 maybe done.

Postby nl4m » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:56 pm

Ok... Follow me. This is a stupid theory, but it may work. If you take a look at, who holds a record for the most money it takes to make a video game, that would be Shenmue. It also doesn't say "Shenmue 1 or 2", just Shenumue. I'm guessing that they made the whole game, then releawsed it in parts. Now I know whtat your asking yourself... "Is the 'Shenmue' that only thing I have as proof". No. If you take a look at Playstations sells for PS2, it's around 100 Million. If you take a look at Dreamcast... I don't think it's over 20 million. Xbox 360 was out for 1 year and it sold around 1/2 million units. In the record books it says that it costed "20 million to make Shenmue". If it costed 20 million to make ONE Shenmue. That would make EVERY person who owned a Dreamcast would HAVE to buy it for Sega to make money. Which is just crazy. Even Zelda OOT, one of the best games ever made, sold only 10 million. My guess is that Sega made the whole game. It's just they don't have the money to publish it. So maybe they are looking for someone who has the money to buy Shenmue 3. As Microsoft bought Shenmue 2.


Can anyone find how much Dreamcast sold... and how many Shenmues sold.... and how much does a developer make from one game ???
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Postby nl4m » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:24 pm

^ Sorry... Made a mistake. If a game costs 20 million to make. That means 20,000,000 / 50 dollars (per game) = 40,000. That means that Shenmue had to only sell 40,001 to make a profit. I was wrong... Sorry.
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Postby Hazuki Legend » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:55 am

At least you corrected yourself. As far as your theory goes i think it only applies to Shenmue, not Shenmue II because if all the chapters were finished how would people know the price to make it?
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Postby DeadPool » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:20 pm

...what the fuck are you blathering on about!

shenmue IS done i think your right on that fact. it is done becuase it is never coming out.
im sorry, but when a game is done being made fully, they release it. the high cost of video games is in making them. not in releasing them. if sega took the time to finish making a game. they dont pat eachother on the back and say good job boys. then throw it in a corner of a room, shut the lights off, go home, jerk off to internet porn. no they set up a release date.

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Postby Rakim » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:27 pm

i bet they have at least a small amount of it finished but i doubt it's all completed.
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Postby VGAce » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:29 pm

Shenmue III is not done, but there are parts of the series that have been conceptualized and created. We've known that for years now (such as the screenshots of Bailu Village). It's also been reported recently, by Kikizo I believe, that much of the story and beta work for the third game has already been completed, it's only a matter of implementing textures, voice actors, etc. Obviously, it would require quite a bit more than that these days with all the latest technological advances that have been made in the gaming world, but the point is that the trackwork has (supposedly) been laid.
However, that's not to say the game is done. I'm sure now, more than ever, there's still a lot of work to do. If they ever actually planned on releasing the third game, they'd have to pretty much scrap anything using the Dreamcast architecture, period. Which pretty much throws the game back to square one.
In your figures of how much it costs to originally make Shenmue, you're forgetting that Shenmue I and Shenmue II were originally one game. In fact, the parts of Shenmue that took place in Japan were originally intended to be very brief, and most of the game would consist of Ryo's adventures in China. That figure was for the entire project, possibly including segments that were unreleased (beta Shenmue III). Guinness never did elaborate very well on how that money was spent, or on what, but it's a moot point now anyway considering Shenmue no longer holds that record (Enter the Matrix does, I believe).
If Sega really wanted to sell the rights to Shenmue III, they would. Somebody out there would surely buy them. Though technically, there aren't even any rights to sell, considering the game doesn't exist. But unfortunately, I simply don't think they care about the series at this time. They lost a hell of a lot of money on it, and it's only good business sense to not continue pursuing a project that never was very lucrative in the first place. No matter how good a game it is.
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Postby Hazuki Legend » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:42 am

VGAce wrote: They lost a hell of a lot of money on it, and it's only good business sense to not continue pursuing a project that never was very lucrative in the first place. No matter how good a game it is.


Gotta agree with you there. As much as us 4000-5000 die hard fans want it Sega have probably realised that worldwide sales will likely not be a success, that does not mean i'm saying Shenmue III will never come out but it's common sense on Sega's part.
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Postby alimn » Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:51 am

Shame on you SEGA----Look what your Shenmue fans are saying!

At least announce the damn thing---at this TGS.
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Postby maurox1988 » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:17 pm

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Postby maurox1988 » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:19 pm

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Postby IveBeenCensored » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:15 pm

not exactly. That 20 million is for one game, BUT sequals are going to be easier to make. The story, some of the characters, a lot of the programming, etc. has already been completed. Shenmue 2, despite being a fair bit larger game, cost far less to make.
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Postby VGAce » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:12 pm

Sequels would be easier to make five years ago. If they ever planned to release a new Shenmue in today's market, it would be game design suicide to release it with the current engine (they barely got away with that for Shenmue IIx). A new, next-gen engine would have to be created, thus bringing technical development back to square one, as I said. I still doubt it would cost anywhere near that figure though. Ease of development has taken a front seat in the capabilities of today's hardware. I'm sure, if Sega and AM2 (or whoever would be developing the game) really tried, they could put out a decent looking game for fairly cheap. I say "cheap" in comparison to the $20 million dollar figure, I mean.
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Postby IveBeenCensored » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:38 am

still, a lot of the programming could be reused. THe graphics and sound would certainly need to be updated, and it would be on new hardware, but the basics of the game would be similar.
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Postby Gangsta Ren » Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:38 pm

First of all Numb nuts, the research and development for Shenmue 1 and 2 costed 70 million, not 20. And they sold 1 million copies of Shenmue 1 in the USA and a little over 750,000 in Japan.
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