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Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:25 pm
by The_Intruder
Jibby wrote:
The_Intruder wrote: It completed successfully. I really hope they can give us the option to upgrade our kickstarter pledge I wanted the $250 reward but at the end I got the $175 because I didnt have enough money.

I know how you feel. I really wanted the printed artbook but only had enough to justify backing the $120 tier. Now that it's been a while since the KS, I have the funds to upgrade so hopefully they'll let us do that soon.

I send them a message about being able to upgrade our pledges and they repplied back saying that they are working on it.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:28 pm
by Jibby
The_Intruder wrote:I send them a message about being able to upgrade our pledges and they repplied back saying that they are working on it.

Good to know that it is a planned feature. Although they've been saying the same thing about the PC version for ages, so I don't expect it to be implemented for quite some time.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:01 pm
by ys
Peter wrote:I've said it before, this extension is nothing but a good thing. The longer it stays open, the better. Especially around big events like Monaco Magic and E3. You can slip in a little "please visit our Paypal" and that would also bring in extra numbers.

From the start I preferred an extension of the original Paypal period. As you say, certainly with those events coming up. And sure, it's good to have a fixed budget before starting development so you know what to work with. But it should be possible to estimate extra funds by extrapolating data now and then (rate of change/derivative). In any case, extra money doesn't hurt and will prove useful.

I think that I will use this extension to buy a physical PS4 copy after buying a PS4 a few weeks back. I was going for the pc version first but always wanted to own a console version too. And it could be useful even since I'm not the only fan here at home.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:45 am
by Yokosuka
Amir wrote:
Yokosuka wrote:
Kiske wrote: As today January 7th (2-day evolution) :

$6,535,037 --> $6,537,602 (+ $2565)
71,508 backers --> 71,542 (+34) ($75 per new backer)


From 4-day evolution :

$6,537,602 --> $6,543,630 (+ $6,028) (+ $1,507 per day on average)
71,542 backers --> 71,609 (+67) (+17 per day) ($90 per new backer)


As today January 12th (1-day evolution) :

$6,543,630 --> $6,545,713 (+ $2083)
71,609 backers --> 71,621 (+12) ($173.58 per new backer)


January 13th
$6,545,713 --> $6,546,652 (+ $939)
71,621 backers --> 71,630 (+9) ($104 per new backer)

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:19 am
by Yokosuka
January 14th
$6,546,652 --> $6,547,180 (+ $528)
71,630 backers --> 71,636 (+6) ($88 per new backer)

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:40 am
by Spaghetti
Hm. Delayed impact from the controversy or just slowing down naturally?

Still glad a lot of people are opting for the higher tiers though.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:28 am
by VukBZ2005
Spaghetti wrote: Hm. Delayed impact from the controversy or just slowing down naturally?


I believe a combination of both.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:04 am
by Yokosuka
In a parallel world, I believe that we would better perceive the controversy impact in the final rush.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:30 pm
by Spaghetti
Regardless, money is money, and it doesn't look like the PayPal campaign is stopping in the near future. Given that we're only halfway through the month and well on the way to $6.6 million, I hope it just keeps some level of momentum to help us cross the $7 million mark eventually.

At least it isn't as stressful as the Kickstarter. Watching the money tick up or down in real time was heartbreaking sometimes. Pledge trolls were the worst.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:09 pm
by Peter
Money is money pure and simple. Keep it open.

If.... If we got to 7 million....

Let's jut say, once the Kickstarter was announced and i told it would get to 7 million, I wouldn't have believed it. For all those disappointed we will never get to 10 million, for the full vision Yu wants, look at it from the point of view that you are getting more than 2/3rds of the full vision. More than a 5th of the game, had we just gotten the 2 million amount.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:59 pm
by Spaghetti
People take that 10 million figure too seriously anyway. They think it is all or nothing in game development, when it totally isn't. It is one of the most scalable creative mediums out there because you're almost entirely working on digital platforms, and making digital assets to be strung together in a workable way by algebraic mathematics on computers.

If Shenmue 3 was a film and it got $3-4 million less than the ideal vision, then the project would suffer in a more tangible way. Sequences would get cut extensively, or if they remained be done for much cheaper at a lower quality.

What you're paying for in game development is effectively just hours worked for the staff to create the digital pieces of the game and then putting it together, if you really boil it down to the very basics. You're not building sets, creating costumes, or props for fifty extras or whatever. Money can go very far with games, especially in the case of Shenmue 3 when you're using a robust and versatile licenced game engine like UE4 and not making your own tools from scratch. Yu has already said as much that UE4 has proven so efficient they think they can take the money further than anticipated.

Are we missing out on anything? Maybe. We don't know what Yu can throw in or not. We don't know if anybody approached Yu or Cedric after the Kickstarter to provide additional funding (if they did, don't expect it to double the budget or nothin'). Until the PayPal is over, upgrades are sorted, and crowdfunding totally ends on Shenmue 3, the sky is the limit. Roll on 7 mil.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:03 pm
by ShenSun
Hellls Yeah Spaghetti

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:24 pm
by Yokosuka
Yokosuka wrote: January 14th
$6,546,652 --> $6,547,180 (+ $528)
71,630 backers --> 71,636 (+6) ($88 per new backer)


January 17th (3-day evolution)
$6,547,180 --> $6,550,114 (+ $2934) (+ $978 per day)
71,636 backers --> 71,664 (+28) (+9 per day) ($105 per new backer)

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:56 pm
by Shenhua-Nani?
We'll never get to 7m but the more money the better, at this point i guess they'll leave it open until people stop pledging money completely.

Re: PAYPAL SUPPORT FOR SHENMUE 3 NOW LIVE!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:41 am
by Yokosuka
Yokosuka wrote:
Yokosuka wrote: January 14th
$6,546,652 --> $6,547,180 (+ $528)
71,630 backers --> 71,636 (+6) ($88 per new backer)


January 17th (3-day evolution)
$6,547,180 --> $6,550,114 (+ $2934) (+ $978 per day)
71,636 backers --> 71,664 (+28) (+9 per day) ($105 per new backer)


January 19th (2-day evolution)
$6,550,114 --> $6,550,589 (+ $475) (+ $238 per day)
71,664 backers --> 71,667 (+3) (+$158 per new backer)