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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby Peter » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:21 pm

Havent even given it the greenlight?

So long Shenmue and Shenmue 2 HD before Shenmue 3.

No strategy. No implementation. Just looking into cleared licenses. Ok Sega. Only been 14 months now. No sweat.
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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby scarless landi » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:25 pm

How long have they been talking about this now? and yet there is still no Greenlight?

Yup, we are not gonna be seeing this before Shenmue III. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see it at all.

It's becoming a broken record at this point....

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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby Jibby » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:27 pm

Usually I say that this kind of stuff is marketing PR fluff, but this seems quite exciting. I'm just hoping he's talking about the views of the company as a whole and not just his views.
Also, if they do go through with it, I feel they'd be cutting it a little fine considering that it hasn't been greenlit yet. However to be fair, it's a port, not a remake and if it does get the greenlight within the next month or so (which I do realise, isn't very likely), I feel it could be finished in time to be released alongside 3 (especially if 3 gets delayed).

All in all, interesting news. But I'm still a little bit doubtful.
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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby BlueMue » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:07 pm

Interesting. We just had an interview with the guy a couple of days ago.
He pretty much says the same thing, just with different wording. Maybe a little more than before.

But after all it's the same message. They know about it, they wanna do it, haven't done anything yet.
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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby Mr357 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:47 pm

Here's how I'm interpreting it: They don't want to go through the """massive""" workload of replacing all of the licensed brands (in other words, they don't want to do any work), so they'd rather risk not releasing the games at all by counting on the sponsors to comply.

Just imagine some Sega execs sitting in a burning building, waiting for the fire department even though they could escape through the front door.
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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby south carmain » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:48 pm

Peter wrote: Havent even given it the greenlight?

So long Shenmue and Shenmue 2 HD before Shenmue 3.

No strategy. No implementation. Just looking into cleared licenses. Ok Sega. Only been 14 months now. No sweat.

Even if they have been greenlit they wouldn't say so until the official announcement.
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Postby Sonoshee » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:02 pm

Mr357 wrote: Here's how I'm interpreting it: They don't want to go through the """massive""" workload of replacing all of the licensed brands (in other words, they don't want to do any work), so they'd rather risk not releasing the games at all by counting on the sponsors to comply.


... Or it could just be that they want to honour the original games integrity. Which is honestly the right way to go. But taking this long to strike up new deals? It's a pee take tbh with you. I fear if it's not green lit by now, anything we see before Shenmue 3 will just be a rushed job. Saying that, I'd just be happy with straight ports/slightly optimised versions at this point anyway.

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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby Yokosuka » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:10 pm

So we'll not see Shenmue HD before Shenmue III. If yes, it will be a miserable and opportunistic port.

Major evidence that they never believed in Yu's kickstarter, so does Shenmue still. Embarrassing.

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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby James Brown » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:27 pm

It is a step in the right direction, but atleast a year too late! What with how long it takes them with all the localisation stuff aswell, it definitely won't be before Shenmue 3 unless they're just pulling the wool over our eyes :P
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Postby Yokosuka Martian » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:20 pm

I'm hoping they are just trying to pull the wool over our eyes . TGS fingers crossed :-p
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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby punkmanced » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:29 pm

Oh FFS, enough with these lame duck excuses already.

What f*cking licenses?
It’s called “Jet Cola”, and it was in Shenmue 1. Problem solved.

Start remastering now; worry about the BS later. Worse comes to worst, no one will lose any sleep over Ryo’s fancy new “Rhymex” watch and “Face Logic” backpack.

...or just come out with the real reasons for not having done this sh*t sooner.
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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby Spaghetti » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:49 pm

They've said from the start they wanted to preserve the games as close to the Dreamcast originals as possible.

This is really just a continuation of that, and further confirmation they're trying to undo the legal knot of the tie-in brands. If they don't get the licencing, then they'll do the texture replacements where needed. I'm actually slightly proud of SEGA for not taking the easiest option available.

I would not be surprised if they are working on it silently, but can't announce it until the licence issue is straight up put to bed one way or another.

No real reason to be doom mongering about this. They've stated their intention to make it happen, have given us a clear answer about what the hold up is, and have continually reaffirmed they absolutely want to do it.

This isn't like six-seven years ago when we got excited when SEGA brought up Shenmue unprompted. Their European COO has gone on record saying it's a project with significant support inside of the company "with [their] full attention".

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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby shredingskin » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:54 pm

The licensing stuff can be about the tech, like some guys said a long time ago, who knows.

I know I said that they'll probably would release it after SIII, but now for some reason I think they won't be that stupid.
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Re: Sega Europe: Shenmue 1 and 2 remakes have our full atten

Postby Monkei » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:56 pm

This is pretty awesome. I get your frustration with the "not even greenlit yet"-situation, but to get such a clear statement about the HD remasters directly from Sega still feels exciting. Just a little over a year ago this would have been unthinkable. Hopefully they'll find a way to hurry up and sort out their corporate bullshit soon.
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