Kickstarter Update #65: Dev room update

[Boogie9IGN]

Is that music from a previous game or is it new? I really like it

You used to post on gaf right?

Heeeey Himuro! Still do! Could've sworn I had an account here years ago but it must have gotten wiped at some point. The internet can be pretty small sometimes hahah

[Himuro]

Oh! I'm glad you've joined us!

[khmlight3]

Has anyone noticed that this tiny patch of pixels here is 1 shade lighter than it should be. This is absolutely unacceptable. Bad update. Game may as well be cancelled.

Completely agree with you, man. And just look at that vase on the right - my mother bought a vase just like that in the mid-90s, so what the hell is it doing in 1987?! I've already deleted the demo and left a scathing review on Steam.

Stop complaining lol

[Jibby]

He was fucking around.

[khmlight3]

He was fucking around.

Alright!

[Anonymous81]

The arcade cabinet's neon tube light details tell me the attention to granular little touches and the obsessive attention to such minute points is still strong in this Shenmue, as with the original two games. Things are just still WIP right now. But if they're paying that much attention to things like that, I feel we can reasonably rest assured the whole game will eventually show that level of TLC as well. Just takes time to create and perfect all that content.

The combat is the thing I have the most reservations about, and ultimately the thing I suspect will cause delays personally. (But would be happy to be wrong.)

[Let's Get Sweaty]

(...)03_YoungFemale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?
(...)04_YoungMale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?

Since we know we have the "character perspective" system hinting at playing as ShenHua, could the "young female" in the coding suggest that you will be able to play the arcade machines as ShenHua and not Ryo? Will Ryo teach her? Could it be a date of sorts?

To me, the "AI Move" part suggests you can maybe play the minigame against NPCs you find loitering by the machine.

[ShenGCH]

(...)03_YoungFemale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?
(...)04_YoungMale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?

Since we know we have the "character perspective" system hinting at playing as ShenHua, could the "young female" in the coding suggest that you will be able to play the arcade machines as ShenHua and not Ryo? Will Ryo teach her? Could it be a date of sorts?

To me, the "AI Move" part suggests you can maybe play the minigame against NPCs you find loitering by the machine.

I know next to nothing about coding and whatnot, but my concern with Peter's proposal is why would Ryo and Shenhua be referenced as 'YoungMale' and 'YoungFemale' instead of their real names? Sounds like generic directory names for NPCs to me.

[Kiske]

(...)03_YoungFemale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?
(...)04_YoungMale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?

Since we know we have the "character perspective" system hinting at playing as ShenHua, could the "young female" in the coding suggest that you will be able to play the arcade machines as ShenHua and not Ryo? Will Ryo teach her? Could it be a date of sorts?

To me, the "AI Move" part suggests you can maybe play the minigame against NPCs you find loitering by the machine.

Both ways, I see some Yakuza influence here.
Or maybe it's just my perception of it, having just been to a "playing date" in Yakuza 0.

[Let's Get Sweaty]

(...)03_YoungFemale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?
(...)04_YoungMale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?

Since we know we have the "character perspective" system hinting at playing as ShenHua, could the "young female" in the coding suggest that you will be able to play the arcade machines as ShenHua and not Ryo? Will Ryo teach her? Could it be a date of sorts?

To me, the "AI Move" part suggests you can maybe play the minigame against NPCs you find loitering by the machine.

I know next to nothing about coding and whatnot, but my concern with Peter's proposal is why would Ryo and Shenhua be referenced as 'YoungMale' and 'YoungFemale' instead of their real names? Sounds like generic directory names for NPCs to me.

Yes, that's what I was thinking.

And according to my sources at Atlus USA, these are leaked model designs for those NPCs:

[Yokosuka]

The arcade cabinet's neon tube light details tell me the attention to granular little touches and the obsessive attention to such minute points is still strong in this Shenmue, as with the original two games. Things are just still WIP right now. But if they're paying that much attention to things like that, I feel we can reasonably rest assured the whole game will eventually show that level of TLC as well. Just takes time to create and perfect all that content.

The combat is the thing I have the most reservations about, and ultimately the thing I suspect will cause delays personally. (But would be happy to be wrong.)

If in the end they fail to reach that level of details for all the remaining environment, they will have no other choice to downgrade the arcade cabinet in order to respect some unity. After all, isn't Yu Suzuki a perfectionnist?

[John Doom]

Just off of stream and drunk pausing though the update video....

So not only does Excite QTE 3 have multiples which stack up the points, but if you pause it at the right time you can see the coding on the developers screen, and this seems very interesting:

(...)03_YoungFemale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?
(...)04_YoungMale: AIMove! Failed! Navigation issue?

Since we know we have the "character perspective" system hinting at playing as ShenHua, could the "young female" in the coding suggest that you will be able to play the arcade machines as ShenHua and not Ryo? Will Ryo teach her? Could it be a date of sorts?

Fuck, this game!

I think it means that these two instances "03_YoungFemale" and "04_YoungMale" (probably two generic NPCs) are trying to move around the map (the arcade where Ryo is playing), but are stuck. That "Navigation issue" may suggest that they can't move, maybe because they haven't programmed a navmesh for that map yet, so these two NPCs don't know which paths they should use to move around.

P.S.: It would be cool to make Ryo teach Shenhua how to play videogames, though

[Kiske]

The arcade cabinet's neon tube light details tell me the attention to granular little touches and the obsessive attention to such minute points is still strong in this Shenmue, as with the original two games. Things are just still WIP right now. But if they're paying that much attention to things like that, I feel we can reasonably rest assured the whole game will eventually show that level of TLC as well. Just takes time to create and perfect all that content.

The combat is the thing I have the most reservations about, and ultimately the thing I suspect will cause delays personally. (But would be happy to be wrong.)

If in the end they fail to reach that level of details for all the remaining environment, they will have no other choice to downgrade the arcade cabinet in order to respect some unity. After all, isn't Yu Suzuki a perfectionnist?

Maybe I'm just not expecting enough (beside hoping for a true Shenmue atmosphere) but I would be happy with the graphics as they are right now.

Manage to release the game within 2017 would be a miracle already and judging by how far they have come, only inspires respect to me for Yu Suzuki and the YsNet team.

[ManoTemple]

I'd be happy with Shenmue IIx graphics as long as the story is satisfying.

[Jibby]

I'd be happy with Shenmue IIx graphics as long as the story is satisfying.

Would be a bit off putting for newcomers though which Shenmue III needs to appeal to.