New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Yokosuka » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:48 pm

Valascaziel wrote: Biggest thing folks need to remember regarding the nitpicking of these models is this:

There is still well over a year in development left and a lot can change in that time period. What we see now versus, say, PSX could be worlds apart.


Why waiting for PSX when there's Gamescom? I bet the stuff we'll get soon will look nothing like that. Otherwise... ouch!
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Verderame » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:09 pm

shredingskin wrote:
Verderame wrote:we need to see it in its proper context.


An android factory ?

:lol: :lol:

I'll stop shitposting for now, I need more perspective.


Heh, it's a fair enough shitpost i guess.

My point is that, imho, stating that this model is an abomination, the ugliest thing ever or even just that it doesn't look that Shenhua AT ALL is an huge, laughable knee-jerking overreaction.
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby killthesagabeforeitkillsu » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:20 pm

Creating the "passport" models by 04 wasn't an unrealistic feat, much less in 2017. Regardless, I always liked the original Dreamcast models more.
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Tortu_genial » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:46 pm

Ryo is not perfect but if it woulb be the final version, it would be ok for me.

Shenfa, hm I think she can be improve.

We don't see much but the clothes seems to be pretty basic (ryo's t shirt looks pretty weird).

But the environement looks gorgeous :)

And Guys, in Any cases we are going to play shenmue 3, it is crazy, and I m happy to see more of this game :) !

I can't wait to see a trailers and some gameplays !
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Tortu_genial » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:48 pm

And it is just my opinion, but if Ryo, and Shenfa are not 100% like in shenmue 1 and 2, it is not a issue for me.

The face of Kiryu Kazuma has evolved between yakuza 1 and yakuza 6
Same thing fore drake ans uncharted
And same thing for the Witcher 1, 2 and 3
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Shenmue_Trilogy » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:50 pm

@Tortu_genial

Drake got older but they did not changed his face features like the eyes of shenhua.

Made some quick tweeks on Shenhua..still not perfect...

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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Tortu_genial » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:01 pm

@Shenmue_trylogie

it is not the debate here it was juste an example, but in fact they have change all the DA for uncharted 4 :)
http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uplo ... n.0.01.jpg
http://i1.wp.com/www.cgmeetup.net/home/ ... =960%2C540
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby adom11800 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:04 pm

Tortu_genial wrote: And it is just my opinion, but if Ryo, and Shenfa are not 100% like in shenmue 1 and 2, it is not a issue for me.

The face of Kiryu Kazuma has evolved between yakuza 1 and yakuza 6
Same thing fore drake ans uncharted

I couldn't agree with you more. Look at the Monkey Island series, Guybrush couldn't look more different if they tried. Every series is pretty much the same. I really think we shouldn't worry too much until we see actual footage.

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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Shenmue_Trilogy » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:04 pm

Yes he looks older and with more polygons ;)
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby adom11800 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:17 pm

If they looked like dreamcast original models with stunning environments then it just wouldn't look right. I know not everyone was asking or expecting the original models, it was more wanting the passport models I guess. Those models were somewhat what I was expecting.
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby punkmanced » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:20 pm

Centrale wrote: I think one problem is that most if not all of the material we've seen so far have apparently been mock-ups - for KS, for this press release. I know the fanbase is starving for eyes-on experiences, but I'd rather have the artists and the marketing staff working together to create exquisite images than to see mocked-up placeholder images.


Exactly. Especially given the contrast in the picture: the environments look stunning, whereas the characters look like they time-warped using 1997 technology.

Verderame wrote: Ok, this is last time, i promise :mrgreen: just a more complete comparison:

Image


The middle one looks a lot more like a 2017 Ryo, IMO. Much better.

Anyway, these definitely aren’t the final Shenhua/ Ryo models. It’s Suzuki and Kid Nocon we’re talking about here; no way they would be satisfied with this subpar BS.

Bring on Gamescom dammit! :-D
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby RiGoRmOrTiS » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:22 pm

those model shots are not great, we just have to hope they are placeholder, however it seems unlikely since they'd have to spend time creating those placeholders in the first place.

What I really wonder is why is it so hard to them to hear what people are saying? over and over they've been told we want something close to the character models on the passport disc; most would be happy if they just replicate those models as closely as they can.. and yet we keep getting different versions of jank.
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Yokosuka » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:48 pm

Tortu_genial wrote: And it is just my opinion, but if Ryo, and Shenfa are not 100% like in shenmue 1 and 2, it is not a issue for me.

The face of Kiryu Kazuma has evolved between yakuza 1 and yakuza 6
Same thing fore drake ans uncharted
And same thing for the Witcher 1, 2 and 3


Exactly that. I don't understand why we're trying so hard to know if the models are faithful to the original. They simply don't have to look dumb with vacant stare and I seriously doubt Suzuki let this thing happens. Then the cartoonish style is another matter that I wish to avoid in the final build.

I repeat myself but Suzuki already proved with Shenmue Online CGI that his soldiers under his command can make fantastic stuff in terms of remaking old charadesign.
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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Peter » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:49 pm

Well if there's one thing we can agree on, it's certainly jump started the entire community before Gamescom, that's for sure.

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Re: New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

Postby Tortu_genial » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:50 pm

"What I really wonder is why is it so hard to them to hear what people are saying?"

I Find you really negative.

And in fact what we want is shenmue 3, it is not the end of the world if the characters are not perfect.

2 years ago nobody thought we could have shenmue 3 one day, and it is happening :)
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