Gingefners, The wrote:I'm sure this was one of the first points made in this topic but should government be given the right to dictate the clothes people wear?
This has been my point from the beginning of this debate. No government has any right whatsoever to establish dress codes. Like I said, the spirit of the world today is anti-democracy, anti-freedom. An intelligent response to violence perpetrated by hostile foreigners would be to apply rational thought to immigration, not tell people what they can and cannot wear around town.beedle wrote:So if a Muslim family are upset about sending their child to a school where they are taught 'Catholic values', then what?
Perhaps I misunderstand your question, but what do you mean? Why are Muslim parents sending their children to Catholic schools? Muslim parents should send their children to whatever school they want. I am against all compulsory education. Muslim parents should build their own schools and teach their children whatever they want them to learn. That is what liberty means, and we all have the right to liberty, and all governments have a responsibility to respect that right because it is a right.mue 26 wrote:what are you talking about a artificial cultural bleeding created by the elites?
Simply that I do not believe mass emigration and immigration, mass dispossession, international outsourcing, and the proliferation of public policy designed to limit the will of the native majority, is democratic. Rather, these are a series of changes unleashed and influenced by a whole string of very powerful people over the course of the last century and this century with the hope of building a global market able to sustain international monopoly. It's not as if I'm making all of this up. World leaders have been very explicit about globalization for decades, and it has never once been a democratic movement anywhere. It is merely a system of mass dependency, and its supporters are either the elites or their dependents. It's unsustainable, unnecessary, and harmful to democracy because it creates a global plutarchy.mue 26 wrote:In fact I think a lot of the people in power(not all) are actually still want to keep us divided, and try to exploit peoples fear and ignorance for their own benefit. This isn't really a artificial cultural blending. People from other countries and cultures have been here for generations now, and I dont think you actually realize how much these people from foriegn cultures and countries have contributed and provided to this country. To be honest part of London's charm is how culturally diverse it is, and how people form many differnt backgrounds and ethnicities live with and love each other(as corney as it sounds) without looking at someone as different because of their race or nationality. As someone born and raised in London I can tell you that it is something that I truley appreciate. Of course it's not perfect and there and still certain barriers we still need to destroy.
I'm an American. Of course I understand cultural diversity. I even like it. You misunderstand me completely. I believe in democracy, which also means that I believe in a wide distribution of property. I don't merely reserve my democratic feeling to politics; I apply the principle of democracy to economics too. I know that without widely distributed property and some measure of financial independence, legal freedom is meaningless, and democracy becomes a farce. People become wage-slaves, subject to vast economic and political forces far outside of their control, and far outside of most people's understanding. That is not freedom.mue 26 wrote:Now Im not saying we should let absolutely everyone into the country, or else it would probably get over saturated unfortunately. But we I don't think cutting off people who want to come from certain countries is the answer at all. Because there are many good people who happen to live in these "Hostile" countries and denying them access to our country because of their government would just not be right. A personal example from my life is an iranian family who live here now, who are wonderful people and who run a great little successful business down the road from me, but if they were still living in Iran there lives would be so much tougher.
I like a family that owns its own means of production. I hope it will last for them.mue 26 wrote:I think you have things confused slightly, keeping people divided and segregated is only holding us as a human race back, and people's fear of different or unknown things allow this to happen. We need to get rid of all the stereotypes, the prejudice, and our fear, then we can start working together to actually heal.
I don't want to keep people divided anymore than I want to force people together. That's social engineering, not freedom, and it's near impossible either way. All people decide for themselves how to live.
Don't you agree, my friend?
) to be able to keep it more separate. It is after all being promoted as being a spiritual part of life compared to the more earthly perspective of laws so why would they want to interfere in that lower earthly business? ;)
