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Net neutrality

Postby Sonikku » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:08 pm

Republicans are railing against it pretty hard now that Obama has come out in support of it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-30030107

Videos are now being made and sent out to "educate" the public.

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Re: Net neutrality

Postby St. Elmo's Fire » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:50 pm

Watched that vid and also read the Wiki, still really do not understand what this is about. Why would users be charged any differently? And why do "they" feel the need to interfere with our internets? Surely in this capitalist age, the internet is already making a lot of money for a lot of people and companies, which is how the world works now? The main cable provider over here does charge users differently for the connection speeds, but that makes sense, you pay more for a higher connection speed.

Can someone spell out, in really basic terms (even to the point where you look condescending, don't worry I'll be fine), what the agenda here is?
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Re: Net neutrality

Postby Ziming » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:20 pm

Internet conspiritard Alex Jones ranting about it.

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Re: Net neutrality

Postby Axm » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:48 pm

Holy crap haha that guy is on coke.
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Re: Net neutrality

Postby Kenny » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:03 pm

That video made absolutely no sense at all.

Net Neutrality does not protect the biggest companies and make them pay less. If you get rid of NN, it gives the oligopoly MORE power to regulate content as they see fit which means competitive companies like Netflix will get slower traffic due to intentional throttling so they can force users to use the company's own VOD services. I work with smaller companies that operate steaming content sites, they will be affected by this more. There aren't many ISPs scattered around the nation, and with these mergers happening, this will only get WORSE if they ban NN.

People get scared when they hear "government regulation" so much they don't realize it means the government is telling these major companies to NOT discriminate bandwidth usage between websites among other things. It's like being scared that the government is regulating your food supply to make sure quality standards are being met. It's paranoid delusional shit. If the lobbyists get their way they'll be able to slow down competitors' content, gain more revenue by charging competitors or customers fees (http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/24/56504 ... h-isp-toll), and maximize their profits in the end.

All this talk of "innovation" on their end is bullshit. Google Fiber is innovation. They're riding on the coat tails of telephone company cables but they're the ones truly innovating, not whining about it. Pretty soon the oligopoly will start threatening to downsize because "they can't afford to compete" when they'll be downsizing anyway if they get their way because they'll taking advantage of other countries by outsourcing and giving them meager wages. All so they can keep their billions, keep their pot-bellied investors happy, and be able to keep their ranking on the Forbes Top 100 list for another year.

So in short, fuck Comcast. Fuck AT&T. Fuck Charter. Fuck Time Warner. Fuck all these guys.

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Re: Net neutrality

Postby ys » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:30 pm

Perfect summary. And indeed, it doesn't make sense. Net neutrality was the whole fucking point when Tim-Berners Lee created the Web while working at CERN! And he has stated this several times, adding that corporate influence was removing some of that democratic aspect.

Speaking of food and regulation. Over here there's a large group on social media who believe/spread that the establishment is deliberately poisoning us by recommending "dangerous food". Practically everything is dangerous to them for various reasons : bread, fruit, cheese, juice,... Behind it is a PR-guy without any chemistry/medicine background, misinterpreting studies. The few scientists who then bother to respond with facts are of course "paid shills". Funny enough his "questioning" followers always happen to be against the scientific consensus. As you said : paranoid shit.

And you're totally correct about those excuses for firing people.


Ziming wrote: Internet conspiritard Alex Jones ranting about it.

Haha, I've seen his name show up many times when looking up countless topics. He was always delivering "the hidden truth".

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