We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's funding

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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Rikitatsu » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:05 pm

Contacted Jason Schreier from Kotaku, hopefully he will be cooperative.

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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Kaven » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:43 pm

Luke_09 wrote: As I've said in a previous thread, the fact of the matter is, NONE OF US know exactly how much external funding this game is getting. It's all speculation at the moment, that's as much as we do know!


Agreed. We need clarity, so journalists stop running their mouths and we can know the true role our donations will play.
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Axm » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:01 pm

Thank you thank you thank you Rikitatsu, ive been in the same boat the past few days here and on 500k trying to inform the misinformed that Sony isnt bankrolling Shenmue.
Now because you organized all the links into one post like that when people get ignorant about it all I have to do is point to your post.

Keep fighting the good fight.
We need sites to run articles now on still just how much the kickstarter is as important as when it first launched.

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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Fenix » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:43 pm

So that means it's URGENT to make moar money. Anyway, even if we make 10M it would still not enough money.
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Sonoshee » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:45 pm

Fenix wrote: So that means it's URGENT to make moar money. Anyway, even if we make 10M it would still not enough money.


$10 million would be better than what it's sat at now and we'd cover a lot of the well needed stretch goals!
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby sand4fish » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:53 pm

^ Yes, stretch goals... Let's focus on those. Personally it's not about a specific number, but how far we could help to raise the numbers throughout the campaign. I want to know what is beyond those $5 million stretch goals, see what other stretch goals Yu Suzuki has in store for the game and challenge ourselves to make reach those. That's what Suzuki meant when he said that Shenmue 3 was in our hands"
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Sonoshee » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:54 pm


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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Fenix » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:56 pm

Anyway still not enough clear i Sony is backing, giving only a part o the cost or funding the most of the game. So that means we need more money to invest. I don't wanna totally trust about Sony. I believe in fans.

Let's break that goals. ](*,)
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Luke_09 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:22 am

We need to start sharing such websites like this below, on social media (twitter, web forums, Facebook):

https://carlosplays.wordpress.com/2015/ ... ckstarter/


...and a handy page to introduce shenmue to those who don't know about it:

https://noobdigest.squarespace.com/shenmue-who
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby ShinChuck » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:56 am

Luke_09 wrote: As I've said in a previous thread, the fact of the matter is, NONE OF US know exactly how much external funding this game is getting. It's all speculation at the moment, that's as much as we do know!

Until that time comes, all we have is the KickStarter, that's the only thing at the moment that is giving us real monetary values!

That's why we cannot assume that others are heavily funding this game until we know for sure. From the sounds of things we will never know for sure.

Therefore we MUST keep promoting the KickStarter and getting the word out there. That's the only option we have. We can't take the risk of making assumptions that others are behind this heavily!


Nailed it! None of us can claim to know specifics, and that leaves a single option choice: to fund and fund and fund as much as possible through the Kickstarter.

Worst case scenario if we do that? We send them a bunch more money than they planned for, and we have a better game in the end. Worst case scenario if we stop funding, as some sites and individuals are recommending, the game scores far less money than expected, interest dwindles, Sony and others back out, and we have nothing (or at least a very low budget game) to show for it. We can't afford the latter scenario! We've waited far too long!
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby LucBu » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:24 am

In regards to press we have two options:

- Stem false articles by contacting the writer or pressurizing through popular means.
- Encourage truthful accounts by contacting journalists, YouTubers and the like (the more popular the better) in order to reach wider audiences with the message that Sony is not funding it in a major way and Shenmue 3 actually needs $10 million. This should aid against the negative press. Hopefully, we can shame the click baiters and bad journalists who regurgitate information without real sources.

Everyone, start sending emails.

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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby shredingskin » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:48 am

LucBu wrote:
- Stem false articles by contacting the writer or pressurizing through popular means.


They'll say that Shenmue fans are violent, and the facists of the gaming world.

Clickbait be clickbait.

Sadly the only/best thing we can do is "not feeding the trolls".
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby johnvivant » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:00 am

i appreciate sony giving a huge platform to the shenmue 3 kickstarter and it has undoubtedly helped raise awareness, but i can't help but feel they are trying to protect themselves from a potential negative spin, which is that they won't outright fund shenmue 3 (i sympathize with sony's reluctance, shenmue 3 is definitely a risk)

sony want to:
-gain positive PR from promoting shenmue and helping it to become a reality THROUGH KICKSTARTER
-avoid negative PR from people disparaging them because they are not funding shenmue 3 outright.

So by insinuating that they are offering substantial support to shenmue 3, people are assuming that this will take the form of huge funding. this might actually be hurting the shenmue 3 kickstarter, because people believe that a full spec shenmue 3 is guaranteed by reaching only 2 million. it is also creating some negativity around the kickstarter, because people feel that sony is tricking hardcore fans out of extra money.

we now know that this is not true. THE KICKSTARTER IS THE MAIN FUNDING SOURCE!
sony's help might only extend to MINOR MARKETING, AND FREE SELF PUBLISHING, or at best some very minor added funding.

shenmue 3 needs 10 million on kickstarter to achieve even an approximation to what fans expect from a shenmue open world game.

THE KICKSTARTER IS SHENMUE 3!
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Sonne2 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:08 am

shredingskin wrote:
LucBu wrote:
- Stem false articles by contacting the writer or pressurizing through popular means.


They'll say that Shenmue fans are violent, and the facists of the gaming world.

Clickbait be clickbait.

Sadly the only/best thing we can do is "not feeding the trolls".



But we can downvote them :D
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Re: We should clear up the misunderstanding about Sony's fun

Postby Rikitatsu » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:11 am

Axm wrote: Thank you thank you thank you Rikitatsu, ive been in the same boat the past few days here and on 500k trying to inform the misinformed that Sony isnt bankrolling Shenmue.
Now because you organized all the links into one post like that when people get ignorant about it all I have to do is point to your post.

No, THANK YOU for being cooperative.

Good news: Someone made a thread at NeoGAF to address this issue, but we shouldn't rest on our laurels yet, especially since Suzuki is demanding $10M for the full on Open World Shenmue experience.
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