Disc 4 of S2 gives me good hope that he won't kill Lan Di. I hope he won't. It pains me every time I play Shenmue up to Disc 4 for of S2, seeing Ryo gradually turning into the hate-fueled person he despises.

How is the hate-fueled Ryo any better than Lan Di himself?

On Disc 4, luckily, it seems he begins to realize this.

The negative points I see :
- possibility of huge surprising flop (if no PS4 physic disc or no Steam pass, everything is possible)
- Sega still owns the licence and could ask for some % benefits parts that kill the plan according the sales
- Similar case : Slighty Mad Studio still ask for crowdfunding with Project Cars 2 (!).

Could be a stupid question, but what's a steam pass? I've not been into gaming anymore for quite a few years, so I don't really know what's going on.

I totally see your point. Every one of us would have preferred Sony or another big publisher to straight up foot the bill for the game without us having to go through Kickstarter. But please keep in mind that this is very likely to be our last shot. This is probably the last chance Shenmue will ever get.

A lot of Shenmue fans would also be willing to contribute like a montly $30 to Shenmue in order to at least ensure some steady influx of cash for Ys during the next two to three years, while developing S3. I think Ys will establish that option through Paypal sooner or later.

Especially since Ys probably won't be putting out any other games during that time span and don't have a lot of other sources of income, it will be a hell of an uphill battle they will have to fight. If we really want to see the saga concluded some day we will have to put in all we can. The only way to ever have a big publisher fund another Shenmue game is to make S3 the best we can and make it successful. If S3 turns out to make a good profit, Sega or Sony might very well jump in and fund number 4.

But for now, that's up to us because right now, the sad reality is that no publisher on this planet believes in the franchise enough to fully fund a game, even if Sony believes in it enough to give the Kickstarter some prime time at E3.

We'll get the 10M. After the KS, we will have about 2 and a half years time to get there through Paypal. Cheer up, every one! :) Let's just make the KS the best we can and AFTER that is done we will have enough time to discuss what to do. :)

Oh, and just in case I forgot to mention it: Shenmue 3 is coming!!! :king:

We'll get the 10M. After the KS, we will have about 2 and a half years time to get there through Paypal. Cheer up, every one! :) Let's just make the KS the best we can and AFTER that is done we will have enough time to discuss what to do. :)

Oh, and just in case I forgot to mention it: Shenmue 3 is coming!!! :king:
If the money pledged really is just for development then they'd need the majority of that $10m a hell of a lot sooner than 2 years down the line though...

We shouldn't be too worried about that. If the fans can generate an influx of, let's say, $50k per month that could be of great help with the development as a lot of the dev costs will be paid monthly (e. g., the wages). On top of that, with like 5 million from the Kickstarter in their pocket, I think it could be possible for Ys to get like a 5 million loan and pay that back monthly, using our paypal money and later, if needed, some of the money made from the sales.

But keep in mind that I'm just speculating and throwing around figures. No one of us knows how much money Ys have right now. Anyway, I'm just trying to tell people to cheer up and have a little more faith. We as the Shenmue community have fought for this moment for 14 years. We've already come a long, long way. We've made S3 a reality. Some of us have been waiting on this moment for almost their entire lifes and we won't just let this opportunity go.

This is our last shot and we will make it! Believe in ourselves, believe in Yu! :D

For Christ's sake, could you please wait for the Kickstarter to finish, first? No offence here, but the panicking over here is starting to go over the top. Pour into the KS as much as you can, wait for it to finish. Await Ys Net's statement on it.

If, after July 18 you should still think we have made too little money, I reckon you will be warmly welcome to make your monthly contribution to Ys Net via Paypal.

To, me this basically really sounds like: "You know, there will be a physical copy, but we want you guys to give us extra cash for it, two and a half years from now."

Watch the wording. It says, there are no plans for a physical copy REWARD. No one ever said there was not gonna be a physical copy at all.

Fair enough solution if you ask me. I'd be more than happy to go to the shop and buy my own copy of S3 on PS4 \:D/ .

What a damn mess. I'm so tired of this shit. This is the most stressed ive been about something in years when it should be a celebration. Somebody calm me down and tell me we'll be ok..

Realx. We're gonna be fine, trust me. To be fair, this Twitch... thing made us a good Dollar or two, I'm not denying. The thing that I don't like is this disturbing, almost obnoxious vibe Awesome Japan give me from time to time.

Those guys seem to have no idea who they are dealing with and what they are actually trying to get funded. It wouldn't surprise if none of them had ever actually played a minute of Shenmue. But at least to me that would seem the most basic of basic preparations to be done. Get a Dreamcast and spend one work day playing a bit of Shenmue 1 and 2 so you have an idea what you are talking about.

If I was a PR guy trying to get the Pebble Watch funded, I'd go and find out what it's all about and if I was trying to fund the third part of a video game I'd sure as heck look into the other two BEFORE starting the KS campaign.

Awesome Japan and especially that Tess guy need to understand that this is NOT about awesome Japan. Even if you don't have a lot of money you can at least get the fan questions out and read them in neutral and serious way without trying to take center stage and turn the whole thing into a third rate comedy show. And shave off that beard, get a hair cut and decent shirt while you're at it so you don't look like a clown on screen.

Sorry for getting a bit fired up but writing this somehow got me aggrevated. :D

Thanks. Great job. Kudos to Joel Tess for replying. =D>

The line about "how much voicing there will be" is remarkable indeed. I wonder if it means the game will not be fully voiced this time but maybe have voice acting for cutscenes only. Kind of Yakuza-style. Well, it would be a step down of course, but I guess I could live with it. It worked fine with Yakuza.

Or does it mean they will either drop the English or the Japanese dub? Personally, I'd be fine without the English dub, but I'm not sure if it's gonna backfire sales-wise in the long run.

@NeoShredder: Where did you get these 绸布 characters for Chobu from? These are not the characters used in the video. See for yourself. The video uses these characters: 鸟舞. They read niao wu - bird dance (WTF?!) - in Chinese (the first character here does not quite look like in the video tbh. That's because I cannot write traditional characters on my computer right now so I used simplified characters, but never mind. It is the same character.). Got no idea why they used Japanese (?) pronounciation for Chobu village and Chinese (Mandarin) pronounciation for Baisha and Bailu though.

Is there a reason in the game for Japanese pronunciation? Does it mean something? Guess, in the end it doesn't mean anything though. :D

I got that on my first ever playthrough, I think. But it took me 8 years or so to find the QTE battle with those high school girls at the harbor.

Also the "Ryo's friends stop by" scene took me 5 or 6 years to find out. Also it took just as long for me to find out that you could actually beat Chai at the Arcade. :oops: And I needed 2 or three years to find the duck race, too.

Anyway, it's amazing how Shenmue can still surprise us after so many years, right?
Yeah, I remember for the longest time thinking it was impossible to beat Chai at the arcade (and even on finding out from here, I think I've only managed it once) - it's worth doing, as you can ask everyone in Dobuita if they've seen Chai anywhere- Ryo's description of him is quite amusing, and his tone of voice is a lot more urgent than it usually is during conversations :lol:

No, since the day I found out you can beat Chai at the Arcade, it became my iron principle to always beat Chai twice on every playthrough. :D I always save before the fight and if I lose I try again until I beat him. I found out later though, that the Mud Spider move from the antique shop is very helpful in beating Chai. Train it way up and put it on R.

I guess he is. Look here for example. Alimn seems to run an Instagram for Novinworks. Just see below his avatar: http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48132&p=1098440#p1098440

Also in the KS update, they call him Ali M. Novin = AliMN? :) Plus, Alimn mentioned he was Persian and the dude in the video certainly sounds and looks Persian. :D

Persian Shenmue legend! \:D/

Hello every one!

I'm from Germany and have been a die hard Shenmue Fan since early 2002, when I first played S1 and S2 on DC.

I have a lot of respect and feel deep gratitude towards the Dojo communitiy and what it has done for Shenmue. Especially people like LanDC, Hellraiser, Kiyuu and many more.

In my real life I have already travelled Guilin and Hong Kong because I wanted to see the real places where Shenmue is set. I've even been to the Man Mo Temple which looks almost exactly the way it looks in S2, at least inside the temple. The coutyard is not like in Shenmue however and if my memory serves me right, the real temple is on Hollywood Road, which is actually Kowloon, not Wan Chai. I'm planning to go to Yokosuka before S3 comes out, if I have the money.

So anyways, I'm glad our dream will come true. Have a great day!

Hyo Razuki

Shenmue 3's KS campaign will finish today (tomorrow for Europe, Africa and Asia). It will be the most-funded video game ever on Kickstarter, perhaps even the first video game to surpass the $6 million mark and for that reason Shenmue 3 will be all over the headlines of world wide gaming media once again.

So here's what I thought. With this hype around Shenmue 3 in our sails, now is the perfect time to let Sega know, we want those Shenmue 1 and 2 ports! I've written up a text which I have sent to Sega. If you don't want to write your own email to Sega about S1 and 2 HD, please take the time to copy and paste my text and send it to them. It just takes 3 steps which can be done in less than a minute:

1. Go to Sega's customer support form: https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new
(Since I am in Europe, I went through Sega's UK branch website which is in charge of European markets, but it let's you choose the region you are in, even North America, South America, Asia and so on)

2. Fill in your email address, the platform (PC or PS4), etc.

3. Copy and paste the text below into it (or write your own) and send it off to Sega.


Dear Sir or Madam,

Today, Shenmue 3 broke the all-time funding record in the video game category on Kickstarter. See the Kickstarter here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/

Many Sega fans, to this day, consider Shenmue not only the greatest Sega franchise ever to be created but the greatest franchise ever. Shenmue 3 is scheduled to come to PS4 and PC in 2017.

Your CEO, Mr. Hajime Satomi talked about "trying to win back back fans' trust" in last week's Famitsu interview. Starting with HD ports of Shenmue 1 and Shenmue 2 for PS4 and PC would be a great way to do that. The games' resolution would just have to be uspscaled and made widescreen. Other than that, not much would have to be done. Maybe some minor additions like a waiting option for Shenmue 1. Keeping in touch with YS Net who are currently developing Shenmue 3 and making the Shenmue 1 and 2 HD port's save state compatible with Shenmue 3 would be the icing on the cake.

Tens of thousands or perhaps even hundreds of thousands of old fans would come running back to Sega for that port. The strength of the Kickstarter for Shenmue 3 has shown that the appetite for Shenmue games is stronger than ever. This can also be seen on eBay where Shenmue merchandise and games are fetching above their original retail value! Creating HD ports would be not only a popular decision with the fans it would also be highly profitable as well.

Moreover, Shenmue 3, even though it is not going to be a Sega game, is still Sega's IP which they licensed to YS Net. Throughout the last four weeks, Shenmue 3 has repeatedly been making headlines in gaming media all over the world and even made it into the Guiness Book of Records. I think it would be a big image boost for Sega to make those Shenmue 1 and 2 ports and have their name associated with Yu Suzuki's Shenmue 3 and the sensation it has stirred. Making those ports would get Sega positive headlines all over the world and it would be seen as something they have done for their fans.

Please, ladies and gentlemen, seize this chance and bring back Sega's old glory!

Sincerely,


Please note: I am not a native speaker of English. Thanks to Benwah for proofreading! Also it might help if you take the time to write your own text as they might see it as some kind of spam if everybody uses the same text. If you don't have time for that, you are of course very welcome to use the above text.

And yeah, I got a bit sentimental with the text, but don't blame me. It's Shenmue. :D

I just realised that copying and pasting has messed up the hyper link.

Which one? The one to the KS? The one to Sega's customer support works for me. Maybe it's got something to do with the region you're in. Like it would only let people in Europe go to the European site. Because I went to Sega.com initially and got redirected to the UK website.

PS: Thanks for proofreading. Used your version in my original post. Hope that's fine.

We just need another $4,666,704 to make our 11 million come true and reach all the stretch goals. I think we can easily do it over the next two years. I personally will be contributing between $30 and $50 per month, depending on how much I can spare that month and also the exchange rate. I figured, other people have expensive mobile phones to pay off or subscribe to magazines which cost them that kind of money each month. I've terminated my mobile phone contract. Gonna use an old phone for the next two years but it's more than worth it for Shenmue.

If your CEO, Mr. Hajime Satomi was sincere with what he said about "trying to win back back fans' trust" in last week's Famitsu interview, starting with HD ports of Shenmue 1 and Shenmue 2 for PS4 and PC would be a great and probably cost-effective way to do that.

You really shouldn't patronize people in an industry like that especially if you have no experience in it. .

But I do have experience in the video game industry. A couple of years back, I worked part time at Nintendo of Europe while I was a university student. :lol:

Jokes aside, the wording was indeed a bit unfortunate. I altered it. Thanks for the heads-up.

But keep in mind, the prefab text is only for people who don't want to write their own email. Also I think focus should be on the tweetathon. This is just an additional thing I personally feel we should do.

I also would not like the fighting system to stray that far off the Virtua Fighter feel the original games had. After all, it is the spiritual successor of VF RPG we are talking about.

That said, I would like to see the dodge and evasion system improved a bit. See Virtua Fighter 4 or 5 as examples of what could be done with that.

Also, the throw system could use some work. Yakuza is a good example of what could be done there.

Furthermore, they could incorporate the environment a little bit more into the fights. Of course, Yu cannot go all Yakuza here. Ryo is no badass Kazuma Kiryu who throws people on bonfires or stabs them with knives. But something like kicking the opponent down some stairs or smashing a table/chair when they crash into it or Ryo gets kicked into the chair, etc. could be done.

With all that in mind however, I would have declared you crazy if you would have told me a week ago, we were going to make that stretch goal. So the bottom line is. I'm super happy about and can't wait to find out what "Advanced Free Battle" will be like.

Because one thing is for certain. As much as I love QTEs: Free Battle > QTE Battle.

I missed it last night. Any highlights or important key new pieces of info other than paypal?


Character Perspective system was again confirmed to be us PLAYING as Ren or Shenhua instead of Ryo.

Also Yu mentioned that he is paying attention quite closely to what the Shenmue community is doing. He specifically mentioned Jibby's trailer which was used on the KS campaign and also the "Thank Yu for Shenmue", Michael Huber's epic reaction and others. Also he mentioned some fan arts which i have seen on user signatures here on the Dojo.

Kind of big news to me at least. I knew that Yu would follow the communities activities from time to time but wouldn't have thought he cares that much.

I missed it last night. Any highlights or important key new pieces of info other than paypal?
Take a look :)

https://youtu.be/eSwfJ437IQc

There's an extra 25 mins before this also (I believe it went down).

Appearantly, there was a blackout in Tokyo so about 30 minutes of footage were lost. i liked that Twitch session a lot. Especially Takeuchi-san was awesome.

Awesome! Exciting news.

Also he said something about the Rapport System. There will be missions where you have to cooporate with other characters such as Shenhua. If you build up Shenhua's trust she will be very helpful in those missions. If you fail to do so, she will be less cooperative.

I think this is were Yu was going to go back in the day on DC. If my memory is right, Disc 4 was initially going to be a part of Shenmue 3 if Sega had not given up the DC.

So now we will finally be able to see what his goal with the Rapport System was back then. After all those years. I'm so excited about this! \:D/

Advanced Free Battle = Breast Physics

No offense, but I hope we will never EVER see anything DOA style in Shenmue. :) Counter system is OK, VF has that too but Breast Physics stuff... I have always viewed DOA as a cheap VF knock-off which basically uses boobies to cover up its inferior fighting mechanics. I have to admit this kind of thing would work on my 14 year-old self :lol: but let's please keep this kind of DOA-feeling out of Shenmue.

Don't get me wrong, DOA is kind of fun, but why use the copy if you have the creator of the original as your director and producer?

Don't get me wrong, DOA is kind of fun, but why use the copy if you have the creator of the original as your director and producer?

Haha, I was just joking about DOA. :) I can't remember a fight against any women in Shenmue anyway. There was Yuan, but as you know it depends which version of Shenmue you were playing. That would leave Dou Niu's breast physics.


You forgot about the fights against Eileen and Izumi in Pine Arcade?

But you're right, those are at least some solid Cs Dou Niu's got! :mrgreen:

I think the advanced AI fighting stretch goal could mean that when you are fighting alongside an AI character (like the 70 man battle in S1) you might be able to give tactical commands to the AI fighter. You know, something like: "Stay on the defensive", "Try to use punches/kicks/throws", "Cover me" and so on. That would be awesome.

Also yes, throws can go a long way when fighting multiple opponents. I've always used them a lot in those situations and would love to see that part of the fighting mechanics taken to the next level.

This one of the things that I will remember for the rest of my life. I actually consider this one of the big things in life. The kind of thing I will tell my grandchildren about.

When I think about this summer, I think about tears shooting into my eyes when I saw Yu Suzuki walk on stage at E3 with the Shenmue 3 logo in the background.

I think about my girlfriend's little niece and me jumping around my girlfriend's appartement in joy after seeing the Shenmue 3 announcement video. She doesn't have the slightest idea what Shenmue is. She is 8 years old. I think she was just swept along by my emotions.

I think about Michael Huber's epic reaction.

I think about me scraping together a lot more money than was actually healthy, given my circumstances, and throwing it at the Kickstarter.

I think about all the passion and all the activities of the Shenmue community to promote the KS.

I think about that one night of the Shenmue 3's Kickstarter's final countdown live stream with emotional Yu Suzuki and Hiroaki Takeuchi watching the campaign blaze way past 6 million Dollars. I was sitting in front of the computer in the sweltering summer heat of the night, through the early morning hours in my time zone during a massive thunderstorm with hailstones hammering on the windows, drinking too much of that super-expensive bottle of Japanese whiskey which I had only ever drunk of on very special occasions. That night definitely was such an occasion. I then went to bed at around 4 am but due to my exitement couldn't sleep longer than about 4 hours. So at about 8 am, Saturday morning, I got up with my girlfriend still sleeping, trying not to wake her and then went into the living room where I had a cup of coffee by myself, staring into nowhere in disbelief, trying to get a grasp of the incredible events of the previous four weeks.

I still haven't quite realized what we have achieved. I think it's gonna take a couple more weeks.

Thanks to all of you for making this happen! :heart: