south carmain wrote: Axm wrote: One of the only major incidents in the past decade was the Jeff Gertsman incident. That I remember clearly. The firing wasnt from Gamespot itself but its parent company over advertizing. A horrible thing. But it was blown into a big deal and made gamespot look bad for years. The damage done made things very obvious and yet we havent had another incident like that since.
Now hundreds of reviews go out all the time that advertizers wouldnt be happy about either. And alot of those major sites like IGN, Gamespot use ads for things completely unrelated to games like McDonalds or Mountain Dew etc.
Theirs a big difference between ad revenue and revenue from memberships and funding from parent companys too.
No there isn't, both can be used as leverage to put pressure on gaming journalists. Gaming journalists make most of their money through sponsorship and ads and if either are removed then they lose a good portion of their income. The fact that that the people they review the products of are paying in itself makes gaming journalism less trustworthy than any other kind of journalism.
I understand that point but now simply because advertizing is a source of funding then everyone's opinions are now corrupt? Plenty of mediocre to bad reviews go out all the time. And if you actually READ some of the reviews that these major sites make instead of focusing on the number, they often make sense just fine. After all, these are opinions and if you follow a particular reviewer and know what he is into then you gain a better sense of understanding what that person likes and doesnt like, giving you more perspective on the individual review.
Then theirs the hundreds of other review sites out there. I suppose they are also all being payed off too.
You say that as if every gaming website gives exactly the same review.
No I say that as if you think all these smaller review sites cant share the same opinion without being "payed off".
Just look at mass effect 3, it's no coincidence major gaming websites gave it very good reviews while the independent ones criticised it on the negative things it had done. There's a reason why it's user score is of 5/10 while mass effect 2 had a user score of over 9/10 yet both have very positive and similar reviews by gaming journalists.
You know the the most vocal are always the negative right? I had no problem with Mass Effect 3,(I thought 2 was better) but I never ran to metacritic to post a 7.5/10. However you take all those who expected a huge elaborate ending who didnt get it and are mad, immediately running to metacritic to post 'ENDING SUX 0/10" Thats not a real review and why sites with lax rules on user reviews are garbage. Compiling a score from someone who wrote 2 pages explaining exactly why they didnt like the ending compared to a 2 sentence vomit is flawed.
Alot of people also dont realize that these sites arent just one person. They have individual people all with different opinions. And it only makes sense for example to put someone who has experience and likes a genre into reviewing a game in that genre. You wouldnt have a RPG centric reviewer do a review on Fifa. Just like you wouldnt have a customer who only plays RPG's buying Fifa.
They act as an entity, they respond to the same people and receive revenue from the same companies so this point is moot. An avid gamer would be able to recognise the strong points and weak points across most genres anyway.
No they really wouldnt if they start out with the train of thought that it's not their prefered genre or that they would like to review the game as fast as possible to get it done so they can move on to something they like more. It's important to match the reviewer to the game. Just like you wouldnt want a Star Trek fan giving a review on The Hobbit when someone else who likes Lord of the Rings more is around to do it instead.
And again, you are assuming that simply because these people work in the same office they all come to a unified agreement. Theirs plenty of podcasts out there from these major outlets where these editors argue with each other openly about games and ultimately never come to an agreement because they are simply too different types of gamers.
Money having an overwhelming influence in these regards is purely speculative. I dont doubt it may happen on occasion you might have a bad seed who decides to be a kiss ass to a publisher, but if you dont follow a particular reviewer then you'll never know if their opinion is genuine or not.
Dont rely on a BS number to tell you what to think.
And they are entitled to them, but theirs an obvious line where an opinion means less then anothers.
And it seems for you this line is drawn at the opinions that agree with yours rather than those that are highly susceptible to be influenced by money.
The line is drawn at where I said before, the people that explain exactly why something is good or bad vs. those that blurt out a brief rage and 1/10 score. It's an unreasonable and just plain stupid system what metacritc has setup.
Personally I haven't played the new dragon age so I'm not saying who is right or wrong but to say that he is in the minority simply because gaming journalists said otherwise is a flawed argument when a good portion of players agree with him.
He's in the minority because simply most people ive seen who have played the game seriously and who know what to expect when buying the game has liked it alot. And ive played all the Bioware games so I have a good perspective on the standard thats been set by this developer. When it comes to DA:Inquisition, it improved upon every aspect previous Kotor, Mass Effect and Dragon Age games have while maintaining the same formula. With exception to story preference, saying it's a bad game in comparison to other Bioware games atleast, is just ignorant.
If it's someones first or second time with a Bioware game then it's excusable to say it's not their taste and not good. But still the content and ability to research what the game is like before hand will take care of any worry for wasted money.
In the end I just wanna say, look into someones opinions and history with a genre rather then just an arbitrary number.
Especially if money is involved.