Gaming thoughts of the day

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:28 am

Ryudo wrote:
ThyDarkAngel wrote:You know that guy that thinks hes pretty clever, posting FF pictures and stuff...

O:)

don't poison me with your lies!


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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:33 am

Segata Sanshiro Jr. wrote:
Ryudo wrote:
ThyDarkAngel wrote:You know that guy that thinks hes pretty clever, posting FF pictures and stuff...

O:)

don't poison me with your lies!


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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:34 am

I'm reading it as jack home run
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:00 am

Anyone ever walk into a gamestore and see a CIB game you have and knowing your copy is not CIB just offer them 10$ for the case? I have done it a couple time in PnT. Be surpised it works. I doubt Gamestop would tho.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Thief » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:40 am

^ I did that once but they just ended up giving me the case for free. Surprisingly it was Gamestop, it was completely out of character.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:50 am

Thief wrote:^ I did that once but they just ended up giving me the case for free. Surprisingly it was Gamestop, it was completely out of character.

Yeah we used to do that. Well when I was there.
GS does not care about cases. It's harder for retro games tho. Some places give it to you some will sell.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby ThyDarkAngel » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:12 am

bah, cant post pics from my ps3, and here i had such a cool one...
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:01 am

A friend of mine told me "don't copy ideas, steal em. If you copy them, you're only recreating the idea, but if you steal it, you know what makes it good. A person will play your game and say 'hey its kinda like this game...but not really'."

I keep thinking about that, and applying it not just to concepts having to do with function, but also aesthetics.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:58 am

I don't like that idea, Manny, although I see his point.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Rakim » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:14 pm

Segata Sanshiro Jr. wrote:A friend of mine told me "don't copy ideas, steal em. If you copy them, you're only recreating the idea, but if you steal it, you know what makes it good. A person will play your game and say 'hey its kinda like this game...but not really'."

I keep thinking about that, and applying it not just to concepts having to do with function, but also aesthetics.


That's kinda like that Pablo Picasso quote "Bad artists copy. Great artists steal." I've always loved that quote.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:30 pm

Dorian wrote:I don't like that idea, Manny, although I see his point.


It sounds a lot worse than it really is. Its more about adaptation and expansion.

To give an example, in Ardere Crystallum there is a huge tank called the Howler. It handles overworld travel, battle preparations and facilitates most of the character specific exposition. Its made up of a million different ideas. I loved the hideout in Suikoden, and how you had access to all of the playable characters there but felt it didn't do much for the actual battles. I also loved the idea of the Caravan from Shining Force 2, but felt it had to little interaction. The name and appearance (which I'm still not done drawing) is taken from one of my favorite movies, Howl's Moving castle.

I took a bunch of ideas, but when I was playing around with a map menu, it felt incredibly different from all of the things i took from.

Rakim wrote:That's kinda like that Pablo Picasso quote "Bad artists copy. Great artists steal." I've always loved that quote.


lol I knew he stole the idea from somewhere lol
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:33 pm

If you want to name every game that has stolen from something else we would be here all day naming series and games like MGS,Sonic,Xenogears,Ys and a few thousand more. As long as it works well and fused with your idea in such a way it becomes your own I see no harm.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:41 pm

Yet, there those rare instances of things that feel truly unique. Like ICO (even if Ueda stole that cover art from Giorgio de Chirico, lol).
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:45 pm

Dorian wrote:Yet, there those rare instances of things that feel truly unique. Like ICO (even if Ueda stole that cover art from Giorgio de Chirico, lol).

:lol: See even if one element. Sonic just stole all the music from everything else.
Funny most things are inspired by or created with the idea of another in some shape or form. Which makes me wonder sometimes who had the first creative idea that didn't copy,imitate or borrow from?
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby OL » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:12 pm

Dorian wrote:Yet, there those rare instances of things that feel truly unique. Like ICO (even if Ueda stole that cover art from Giorgio de Chirico, lol).


Thing is, Ico feels unique, but it's really just an environmental puzzle game. It's Tomb Raider with analog control, fixed camera angles, and much, much better art design. Gameplay-wise, it's not particularly unique at all. But it's still an absolutely excellent game because of how well it's all executed, plus the amazing design elements.
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