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Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:06 pm
by Three Blades
Wow, I had no idea this was possible. Ryo should have said "hey, wait... can I have the can please?"
..or you should be able to pick it up out of the garbage can after that idiot goes away.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:14 pm
by Supa
Interesting to see if BlueMue can get a video of this little oddity.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:27 am
by BlueMue
Are you sure you didn't just confuse it with the orange Fanta can? I don't know but I doubt it really happened. Like has been said already, with so many people playing the game so many times over the years it had to have happened to someone before. But no one ever mentioned this happening, though it's still somewhat of a mystery.

I can try to spam Wang with drinks for a while. It would be awesome if a winning can does indeed show up.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:53 am
by Amir
BlueMue wrote: Are you sure you didn't just confuse it with the orange Fanta can? I don't know but I doubt it really happened. Like has been said already, with so many people playing the game so many times over the years it had to have happened to someone before. But no one ever mentioned this happening, though it's still somewhat of a mystery.

I can try to spam Wang with drinks for a while. It would be awesome if a winning can does indeed show up.


I'm pretty damn sure, had the bullseye on it. I agree it is weird it hasn't come up before though, maybe people think it's a Fanta or something.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:21 am
by Supa
To be fair, we are still discovering new things in this game...there are probably things that are still unknown to us in these games.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:27 pm
by shengoro86
This can be done easily via modding. Just swap the winning can texture with your favorite drink!

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:54 pm
by BlueMue
shengoro86 wrote: This can be done easily via modding. Just swap the winning can texture with your favorite drink!

Not really the point lol.

Still have to get to giving Wang a couple dozend drinks.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:01 pm
by JaySw34
I've literally tried it like 15 times. It's a pain because every time I reset I need to run back to Dobuita from Yamanose. But yeah still haven't gotten him a winning can... I had to stop for a while. It was getting tedious lol

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:15 am
by Amir
Speaking of luck, I got a Gold Kids Dural with my first go on the VF Kids dispenser. 10 toys later, I got a 2nd one! \:D/

But I've got like 4 Akira 2s and 5 Wolf 2s.... :mad:

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Also beat Chai for the first time ever, took me 2 gos but followed the advice about training Crawl Cyclone up to moderate and spamming it during the fight.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:52 am
by BlueMue
I've tried it 50 times yesterday. On Demul with save states. No luck and I don't really feel the urge to continue pursuing this as I'm still unsure if I'll ever get anything out of it. The kind of savestate I use for this does work perfectly for winning cans when Ryo buys a drink so don't blame it on that.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:23 pm
by Amir
BlueMue wrote: I've tried it 50 times yesterday. On Demul with save states. No luck and I don't really feel the urge to continue pursuing this as I'm still unsure if I'll ever get anything out of it. The kind of savestate I use for this does work perfectly for winning cans when Ryo buys a drink so don't blame it on that.


I really don't know how it happened :dunno: Nothing else weird on my Shenmue playthrough so far apart from getting a Kids Gold Dural first go on that machine (but then I blew 3000 yen at the harbour Tomato convenience store just to end up with a Ferry capsule toy :P ).

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:26 pm
by Jibby
BlueMue wrote: I've tried it 50 times yesterday. On Demul with save states. No luck and I don't really feel the urge to continue pursuing this as I'm still unsure if I'll ever get anything out of it. The kind of savestate I use for this does work perfectly for winning cans when Ryo buys a drink so don't blame it on that.

Sorry to go off topic here, but how do you get save states to work in Demul? I see the save state option under "file" but it's just a list of empty slots that don't do anything.

As for the lucky can, forgive me if this suggestion is really stupid since I have 0 experience with modding, but could you look at the hex data to find out if the game does anything differently (such as add a flag that stops winning cans) when you buy a drink for Wang compared to when you buy a drink for yourself?

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:59 pm
by BlueMue
Jibby wrote:Sorry to go off topic here, but how do you get save states to work in Demul? I see the save state option under "file" but it's just a list of empty slots that don't do anything.

You assign buttons on the keyboard (like 4 and 8 in my case) to save and load and just press these. It's still buggy. Sometimes Demul will crash while loading. In an unfortunate situation it will continue to crash every time you load the save. That's what happened today when I wanted to give the winning can thing another shot.
Sometimes it even crashes when you make a save and I don't have to tell you how much that sucks in Shenmue.

Jibby wrote:As for the lucky can, forgive me if this suggestion is really stupid since I have 0 experience with modding, but could you look at the hex data to find out if the game does anything differently (such as add a flag that stops winning cans) when you buy a drink for Wang compared to when you buy a drink for yourself?

I thought of this too. That would be a good thing to go after this with modding. I'm not good enough at this to search for things but James could probably find something.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:12 pm
by Jibby
Thank you! I'll keep the crashing in mind though.

Re: Sonofabitch threw away a perfectly good Winning Can...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:18 pm
by Ceej
BlueMue wrote: Sometimes Demul will crash while loading. In an unfortunate situation it will continue to crash every time you load the save. That's what happened today when I wanted to give the winning can thing another shot.
Sometimes it even crashes when you make a save and I don't have to tell you how much that sucks in Shenmue.



I actually just assumed the Demul Save States were completely broken. I've never gotten save states to work without Demul crashing on me.