Outside Xbox: Let's Play Shenmue II (Xbox version obviously)

[amiga1200]

fair question.
YES, to both! (i only have a few friends by choice, and silences by word are golden. if we're not playing on a game together, smoking is up next. words can't express the quality of near-silent friends.)
[edit]
one of them does hauppage recordings, some of them going on for hours at a time.
never uses overlays or additions, just a clean recording, and CUT!

[MiTT3NZ]

Then I'm not quite sure why you're here and actively engaging in discussions. You could easily avoid such interactions by merely observing what is posted as opposed to posting nonsense.

Your attitude towards others reminds me of a very simple phrase...

"Maybe you're the problem."

[amiga1200]

Is it just voices you hate, or socialising with people in general?

^^ wasn't that the question, about voices?
at least internet can be text, no voice.
maybe you're right, i am the problem?
fucked up big-time involving myself here, not so much at other places...
[edit]
added!

[Thief]

I guess he's trying to add the whole dojo to his ignore list so he can talk to himself.

[MiTT3NZ]

Is it just voices you hate, or socialising with people in general?

8) fair question.
YES, to both!

^^ wasn't that the question, about voices?

Is it just voices you hate, or socialising with people in general?

8) fair question.
YES, to both!

added!

HA!

[ShenmueTree]

This thread has confused the fuck out of me.

I like let's plays. The best Shenmue Let's Plays are from ScottishDuck and Game Trailers. I'm fine with or without commentary, depending on context.

If I'm watching a let's play of something like a TellTale game, commentary can fuck right off. Watching a let's play of Mario? Minecraft? Most RPGs? Commentary, please!

[Ceej]

If you only want gameplay you can look up videos on Youtube. I like when sites such as GameTrailers do let's plays because I enjoy listening to their commentary and their thought process for figuring things out in the game. It gives me a different perspective on a game like Shenmue II that I've beaten several times.

[NeoShredder]

This reminds of me of the debate that emerged when Nintendo started trying to take footage of their copyrighted video games down left right and center a couple of years ago and became known for being particularly zealous about it. The question then became the extent to which the Youtuber's gameplay and commentary were 'original work' on top of the copyrighted material.

I mean after all, it was about approach; you can consider that a famous youtuber that people appreciate playing your game can help with promoting and generating hype among thousands of subscribers (like how Sony bought Twitch and integrated it into the PS4), or you can consider that you want people to buy your game rather than just watching the whole thing on Youtube (Nintendo).

If it's just footage without commentary for the "TellTale" type games, I might as well be watching a movie. Those of us who have played Shenmue II knows what happens, having commentary from a Youtuber you like is like watching a friend play the game and chipping in with his opinion (except you can't correct him when he's full of shit! ). I don't mind it.

Having said that though I accept Shenmue is a Dreamcast game and, like other old games, not everyone can run emulators and some people just want to see the game in action. I suppose I can accept that its not as easy to just 'get the game yourself'. Still, I think its valuable to get the gist of the game from someone who actually knows something about the game and can play it properly (unlike Funhaus and Van Ord). For example Gametrailers playing through the whole of Shenmue II was brilliant.

EDIT:

It gives me a different perspective on a game like Shenmue II that I've beaten several times.

Agreed. The one thing I'd forgotten in all these years was the process of figuring things out on that first playthrough. Fascinating stuff.

[Himuro]

The Dojo stream I did didn't have commentary. I personally didn't do it and used the chat feature on twitch instead. Thanks for shitting on the Dojo stream, guys. I did that because I've watched a lot of let's plays and far too many have voices. also, the voices tend to make the let's plays exclusive. They aren't inclusive towards people who can't hear, and honestly interacting with chat is just as good. Finally, I've been e-stalked because I am a transgender woman and didn't want to be treated like that for playing a video game series I love. But good job on shitting on the idea of let's plays with no commentary!

[amiga1200]

eh?!
what's gender got to do with it? (e-stalking?! i, err, nevermind.)
there's loads of quality recordings out there.
some have a dual upload (maybe stream too) one with the plain recording, ideal for those that want to see a game without bias, or just a motion walkthrough/guide.
the other has a commentary overlay, some even with a small window offset to the side of the person talking.
...
i hold my hand up for disagreeing with vocal playthroughs, but NOT for 'shitting on dojo'...
in my mind (as tiny as that is, sure) there's NO connection..and not seeing it on the subject.

[ShenmueTree]

@Himuro

I don't see anywhere that anyone is shitting on the Dojo stream? I personally didn't watch it so I can't shit on it. I can only speak of the let's play I've seen and of those Game Trailers and ScottishDuck have been the best ones.

And people not watching the dojo stream isn't shitting on it either. It's impossible to watch every stream, every time. I didn't watch it because I couldn't though, so there's that. I mean, I did check in a few times when it was streaming but I was somewhere else that actually had internet that I could view it. I can't do that here on slow mobile data.

Shouldn't take things so personally. Also, if it's archived I may go watch it sometime when I can.

[Thief]

The Dojo stream I did didn't have commentary. I personally didn't do it and used the chat feature on twitch instead. Thanks for shitting on the Dojo stream, guys. I did that because I've watched a lot of let's plays and far too many have voices. also, the voices tend to make the let's plays exclusive. They aren't inclusive towards people who can't hear, and honestly interacting with chat is just as good. Finally, I've been e-stalked because I am a transgender woman and didn't want to be treated like that for playing a video game series I love. But good job on shitting on the idea of let's plays with no commentary!

A live stream is kind of a different thing Himuro, it doesn't need commentary because it has the chatroom -- which you oftentimes used to interact with the viewers. Nobody was shitting on the Dojo Stream. I very much enjoyed it.

[Aimless Gamer]

The Dojo stream I did didn't have commentary. I personally didn't do it and used the chat feature on twitch instead. Thanks for shitting on the Dojo stream, guys. I did that because I've watched a lot of let's plays and far too many have voices. also, the voices tend to make the let's plays exclusive. They aren't inclusive towards people who can't hear, and honestly interacting with chat is just as good. Finally, I've been e-stalked because I am a transgender woman and didn't want to be treated like that for playing a video game series I love. But good job on shitting on the idea of let's plays with no commentary!

You did my 2nd favorite stream ever on Shenmue behind gametrailors. Nobody said you did a bad job

[Himuro]

Ok, so the problem is uploading stuff without commentary to YouTube raw?

I personally don't upload videos to my yt with commentary. As said, I search for any gameplay video on something and I get some wheezing asshole talking over the game and you can't hear the music or anything. If I want to learn about a game and not just be entertained, I like raw footage.

[Thief]

Ok, so the problem is uploading stuff without commentary to YouTube raw?

I wouldn't necessarily say its a problem, but I wouldn't find it particularly interesting to watch (at least not in its entirety). Personally, I need some commentary (either written or spoken) to keep me interested. The twitch stream had the benefit of being able to speak (in real-time) to the person playing the game, plus being able to interact with everyone else viewing. Being uploaded as raw footage disallows for that personal feeling of playing a game together -- which I wouldn't prefer.