elfshadowreaper wrote: So much hinges on HD remakes/straight rereleases.
Not true.
People bought Skyrim and Oblivion in droves despite not ever having played an Elder Scroll game. Don't modern Yakuza releases sell better than Yakuza 1 did? So I doubt most modern Yakuza fans have played both 1 and 2. Fallout 3 sold gangbusters despite: 1. being a pc only title previously and 2. having 3 in the title. Mass Effect 1 didn't come to Playstation 3 initally. They skipped right to 2 and it still sold well.
People who say this hinges on 1 and 2 being re-released are out of their minds. Historically, with story-based franchises, the point in the story doesn't matter. The number also doesn't matter. Final Fantasy VII sold 10 million worldwide. Europe bought it in droves despite 1. never having EVER had a Final Fantasy released in those parts and 2. BEING THE SEVENTH GAME. Sure, they're not connected story-wise, but it doesn't matter to most game players and most games of this type ease you into the story anyways.
The Witcher 3 came out JUST LAST YEAR on Playstation 4 and was a great seller for that system and guess what, Witcher 1 was on pc exclusively. Witcher 2 was on 360 and pc and didn't even sniff the ps3. Witcher 3 came out on Playstation 4 and sold really, really well.
There's far more cases of long running story-based franchises doing well mid-series to a general population when it previously never saw those numbers than the opposite.
Can we kill this "Shenmue 1 and 2 need to be re-released for this to be a success" thing? Because anyone who knows games even a tiny bit knows that's fucking bullshit. I remember plenty of people who bought Resident Evil 4 despite never ever having played a Resident Evil game before. I have a friend who played Suikoden III before I and 2. My cousin and plenty of other people bought Metal Gear Solid 4 based on the name alone and they had never played a single MGS. Plenty of people are going to buy Kingdom Hearts III and absolutely NONE of us understand the story going on there. Game players give less of a shit on being all caught up on the story than you think. All they have to do is make a movie summary like the digest in IIx. Now, does this mean that the game is guaranteed to do well? No. But its success certainly doesn't hinge on whether or not people have played the previous games.
The most central factors to this game doing well are 1. marketing and 2. it being a good game. Marketing is the real tough one but I have faith in Sony doing right by the game.
Spaghetti wrote: Himuro wrote: Not all good games make money or are critically well received but Shenmue III is also a record breaking Kickstarter fundraiser and has over 15 years of hype.
I'm not so sure that'll work in its benefit, but then again; that length of hype is only really contained to fans and I'm almost completely certain at this point that the game will satisfy the majority of us.
The Kickstarter stuff is really only a stick to beat the game with if imperfections are picked upon. Look forward to position switching from a lot of people in the future when they change from "Is $6 million enough to make Shenmue III?" to "OMG SCAMMING YU SUZUKI DOES NOTHING WITH HUGE $6 MILLION FROM FANS".
I think it'll surprise a lot of people in terms of scope and depth for a KS game, though, but YSnet and Shibuya Productions probably won't get the appropriate credit for the hard work and some ignorant people will chalk it up to Sony.
That's fair. I'm just sick and tired of hearing about CORRUPT GAME JOURNALISM on this forum. It's boring and it's tired.