What arcade games would you like to see in Shenmue 3?

[Three Blades]

Ok. But the console didn't. Also, space harrier and hang on weren't available on CDs. I guess it breaks immersion... If you have a 2x4 wedged far enough up the ass.

[Hyo Razuki]

I guess it doesn't break the immersion, really. But then again, we are talking about something which we can't say for sure will be in the game. Yu said there was an Arcade Room stretch goal, but the description doesn't make it clear which one it is. If the Baisha Extra Mini Games X5 stretch goal turns out to be an Arcade, then we will get it. If not, we will have to see how far Paypal can take us in terms of funding.

[shenmue852]

If you're that bothered by the idea of VF in Shenmue, I highly recommend you never play Shenmue 2. You'd probably be butthurt because everybody speaks Japanese in China. It's the same thing. It doesn't matter. VF wouldn't break immersion, nor would it be any more unrealistic than what's already in the game.
You might as well say:
Shenmue 852: Ryo never changes his clothes, and has worn the same band aid for half a year. I don't like this game anymore.
(What you're saying is exactly like that except with 20 paragraphs of nonsense mental gymnastics around it.)
What a stupid, arbitrary thing to care about.

Wow, you're not only completely oblivious to the idea of context and convention, but your attitude ensures you'll remain a fucking moron, attempting to suck your own dick through your failed mental gymnastics which revolve solely around the idea that if you say something doesn't matter, it couldn't possibly matter, because you're only capable of envisioning a singular category that revolves around your unwavering delusion that you are right because you want to be right.

Why aren't clothes changed? Why is a guy wearing a bandage? Why does everyone speak a common language? These are all conventions in Japanese genre and adventure films. There are various reasons for such artistic license, and unlike your idiotic assumption that everything exists on an absolute binary of possible/impossible, they arise out of specific circumstances for specific purposes. The common-tongue aspect is a universal narrative device in every culture's literature. If you can't figure out why it exists within certain genres, and assess what kind of genre Shenmue's story falls under overall, then your intellectual level falls far below what's required for this conversation.

I notice that you're still stuck on the idea of "realism" vs "unrealistic" when I didn't use the word realism in the simulation sense. But again, this is a distinction far too subtle for your mind.

Despite all your smug sarcasm and intellectual posturing, you've completely failed in all your posts to demonstrate how it's warranted and appropriate to include a game from 10 years later in a game set in 1987. Claiming it doesn't matter doesn't prove shit, and only makes you look stupid. You need to make a compelling case, or else you may as well be arguing that they put the statue of liberty, or porn in the game. Because hey, it doesn't matter, it's not real right? Was there ever actually a Hazuki dojo? Is there a Ren of Heavens in Wanchai? No? Okay, well let's put Sonic the Hedgehog in the game as a character in the story, not just an arcade game because it doesn't exist and doesn't matter! It has Chinese people speaking Japanese, and that doesn't make sense to my understanding of genre convention, format and cultural context but I'll point it out because somehow it's relevant to a totally unrelated discussion! wow look how clever and observant I am!

Yeah, no. Fucking moron.

[Three Blades]

Lol, smells like butthurt
I don't need to write a 1500 pages novel to justify my opinion, because unlike yours, it isn't arbitrary nonsense, it is obvious common sense and stands on its own, and thus, doesn't require miles of insane mental gymnastics.
Have fun being butthurt at every tiny thing

[shenmue852]

It's actually you that's butthurt from completely failing to make a point or defend your complete failure of an argument. I took all of 3 minutes to write my posts, and if it feels like 1500 words to you, you're only further showcasing your limited reasoning capacity, and anyway you aren't really the intended audience despite the fact that it was your post I replied, because, this may come as a surprise to you, but other people read this board, who aren't as stupid and worthless as you and may be capable of a thoughtful discussion.

You, on the other hand, don't matter- and neither does your attitude that you blatantly want to force on others, a lame personality trait that compounds your already lacking intellect, and it's abundantly clear that you're that kind of person that common sense would encourage anyone normal, and not pathologically devoid of intellectual and social ability to avoid.

But have fun living in your self contained idiosyncratic world where your unfounded, unqualified turd of an opinion counts as "common sense".

[Three Blades]

Bro, you sound like virtua fighter raped your mommy
Ah, right... "NO U!!!"
Yup, gotcha

[shenmue852]

Still short of an actual relevant argument or point. Congrats on being consistent.

[Three Blades]

Nah, I already did that way ahead of you (and better)- it just went over your head, that's all

[shenmue852]

Nah, I already did that way ahead of you (and better)- it just went over your head, that's all

So basically you're plagiarizing what I already said, and still failing to contribute anything meaningful of your own. Bravo.

[Three Blades]

You're high on crack buddy

[shenmue852]

Stop playing Virtua Fighter when you're high on Bath Salts, then you'll stop experiencing visions of Taka Arashi commanding you to get VF ported into Shenmue III

[Three Blades]

I never even said or acted like I liked VF that much I've played the 2nd one maybe twice on my friend's Saturn and that's it... 15 years ago
I don't care whether it's in Shenmue or not, all I'm saying is that there's no reason for it not to be (outside of some insane justification that's arbitrary as f*ck )
(Unless there are no arcades in S3 at all, which would be alright too)

[shenmue852]

Sure, that's what the floating Durals told you to say when they initiated you into their VF-Must-Be-In-Shenmue-Cult and you drank the kool aid.

that there's no reason for it not to be (outside of some insane justification that's arbitrary as f*ck )

it's not arbitrary. it's technology that's functionally a decade ahead of the game's setting. that's neither arbitrary nor insane, but actually perfectly reasonable. you're trying to claim up is down by suggesting that a significant anachronism doesn't negatively affect a period setting. what's the point of setting it in 1987 just to undermine that? as in what is gained?

they gained something by having everyone speak Japanese- It's a Japanese game made by Japanese people in Japan, so they avoided having to make Shenmue II in Cantonese and III in Mandarin by adopting the age old adventure genre trope of having everyone speak the same language, which might technically be Japanese, but isn't meant to represent that everyone speaks Japanese in other countries but rather that communication isn't an issue. It could be English represented as Japanese the same way the English dub is Japanese represented as English. So artistic license has an actual utilitarian purpose.

They gained something with the bandage and clothes- bandages on male characters in action oriented Japanese visual fiction is a standard design choice. In many genre films, the characters rarely change clothes. This is because of various reasons- ease of identifying characters by their outfits, lack of necessity to show characters showering an changing and budget constraints have made this a long accepted convention in the action genre. BTW, you don't know that Ryo isn't washing his clothes. it just might not be shown in game.

What's to gain from VF? The whole point is that there has to be a compelling reason to do something that would outweigh the drawbacks. You can't provide one though, instead just claiming that it doesn't matter (in your opinion) because it's "common sense".

unless you think that there's some illuminati conspiracy theory that Shenmue isn't actually set in 1987.

[zema]

I personally would enjoy an arcade in the game.
I don't think it breaks immersion at all. Also i don't understand how some of you guys can be so against an arcade, yet don't have anything against the capsule machines.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't think there were capsule toys machines in rural China in the 80s.

About the games, i would like them to add the arcade version of the first shinobi, i love that game, though not being a Suzuki game make it's chances of appearing close to none.

[Three Blades]

it's not arbitrary. it's technology that's functionally a decade ahead of the game's setting. that's neither arbitrary nor insane, but actually perfectly reasonable.

Nope, that's exactly what arbitrary is, because we're talking about a mini game that isn't related to the main plot, and doesn't need to be logically explained because it literally affects nothing else in the game. That's the definition of something trivial and arbitrary that nobody would care about except an insane person.