@we420
I was looking for a random picture and stumbled across your post doing so. I can just as well as any real 'Kung Fu/Gung Fu man/woman' worth his/her salt answer your question so I went out of my way to register for this forum just to answer your question and provide you with some answers.
I don't know what Master Kyodai is talking about:
Hard to say as the actual move is barely seen in the ending.
as far as not really seeing the movement as its very plain to see what move it is (assuming its the move that youre talking about in this clip at 0:48 seconds where he hits Ryo).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_lr4JqgrW8He (Master Kyodai) goes on to say:
There are 100s if not 1000s of Shaolin kung Fu moves,
And he is somewhat correct there since ALOT of our sets have a hundred or more of moves in them. Since the census of living Kung Fu styles as of the year 2000 in china was numbered to and considered as 100+ living kung fu styles many of them claiming to originate from the Shaolin Temple in Shang Dong province in the Shan mountains it's rather easy to say that there are thousands of moves.
A few things that Master Kyodai was wrong about is found in the rest of his statement (but I will break this down to try and stay focused):
many come close to what we see in the ending
I will do my best to break this down into something that's attainable at least in mindset for non-practitioners.
Many moves in a Shaolin set DO NOT come close to what you see in the ending as it is a VERY SPECIFIC MOVE (I knew was it was the second I saw it).
*factoid for you**I had only just begun my Kung Fu training when I was testing this game for Sega in '99 in San Fransisco in the SEGA building on townsend ;p It's been so long since I played this so I had totally forgotten about this clip to be honest (makes me want to go back and see more of Lan Di's stuff. Had I seen it then I would have had to ask Sifu because I dunno if I was knowledgeable enough to know it by sight then, especially since I had sought him out because of his drunken curriculum.
although the fact that Lan Di is strinking with the palm of both hands is a bit odd. Obviously most traditional kung fu moves that strike forward with both hands are rather utilizing a fist as you can put more force into the move that way. Especially for a "deadly strike" this seems to be more fictional than everything else.
This is hardly true for a myriad of reasons.
First of all from a physiology stand point when you ball your fist you constrain the muscles.., thus if you snap your hand into a balled fist from an open hand you continue to multiply speed and generate power until collapsing your hand into a fist at the last second to maintain as much of it as possible.
Thus if above said is true (as it is believed in the science realm) then a palm strike will ALWAYS have more potential to harm.
Reason #1 Kung Fu striking with both open palms is NEVER ODD.
I'll go into this a bit:
When a non-practitioner sees open palms they take it for granted that this could never be damaging like the 'power' a balled up fist produces as seen in Master Kyodai's responce.
In Kung Fu we practice more than a few disciplines that are not part of the set, some examples are but not limited to:
Movement of 'Qi' (the real spelling of Chi 'Ki' in japanese)
Iron (hardening of the body through toughening and strengthening exersizes and conditioning)
Dim Mak (death touch striking)
Other things to consider that the non-practioner never sees:
Hidden fists within the set
how energy is borrowed and dispersed from the ground through your body
coiling
proper movement through stance work
explosive power (fa-jing)
how that particular move covers the whole body: throat, solar plexus, stomach area, dantien, groin it's not an exaggeration that Ryo's body was lifted off of the ground.
how properly techniqued iron fist users can stop your heart from slapping you in the chest moving their qi through you and then following with the physical fatigue from the attack etc.
True kung fu was made to kill, anyone that tells you otherwise is either lying full of shit or doesn't know what they're talking about.
The systems were made to kill bandits and invading wildlife and unscrupulous warlords to protect the monks because their temple was only made of stone. They didnt really have anything to keep animals/people/armys out.
@ys is right the move is from the Hung Family style 'Hung Gar' (from Shaolin) And it is found in the set called 'Fu Hok Seung Ying Kuen' Or 'Tiger Crane Double Pattern Fist'
http://www.hunggarkuen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/FuHok-Poster.jpgthe move is 4 columns down 'Tiger' column, 5 movements over called 'Butterfly Flying'
Also the Video he (@ys) showed is an old video that was shot in Hong Kong of my grandmaster 'Chiu Chi Ling' (he was in Kung Fu Hustle) who lives in Alameda, California walking distance from my Sifu Troy Dunwood.
Sorry if I didnt touch on enough of it for you *ys did a decent job but I wanted you to have your actual answer. Feel free to email me at
[email protected] if you have any questions because I may never make it back to the board haha. ;p