New Ryo & Shenhua models from press release

[Peter]

Upon closer inspection it looks that the models are based off the Passports ones....



Yet they somehow managed to make them look ugly, maybe are those dead eyes, maybe in motion they will look fine, time will tell.

It's literally the same only designed with updated technology. Thanks for posting this.

But this is what I have been screaming for months. People are completely overjudging things without taking everything into account. The movement, the reactions to the environment like lighting and elements, the lip sync and voice work. That's then when the character comes to life and replicates what has been before.

I am now extremely happy with Ryo at this present point in time, considering where we have come from in 2 years. My only slight criticism is that the jacket is a little too light brown. But potato, potato. Shenhua I can wait on and let them continue to work on it. Perhaps it's just a bad shot of her. Who knows. The point I'm making is I don't know. Hence I won't judge.

[Fei Fong Wong]

I think that this comparison that someone posted on Neogaf is actually pretty good:



I think it shows that they kinda nailed Ryo pretty good and that it's almost everything about lighting.

The Passport model is the ideal and real look of Ryo, i dont know if someone remembers the making off video of Shenmue where Suzuki and his original team were interviewed, and they showed the bust of Ryo, they modeled it on clay (i think it was clay), and that was the original renders / passport model, if in S·3 they don't reach that exact model, it's a sign that they dont respect the original work.

[Yokosuka]

The real Ryo for me, the ingame one:

[KidMarine]

I just noticed how low-poly the zipper on Ryo's jacket is. On both sides, it's like the metal bits have been drawn on rather than modelled individually, what's that about? Maybe this is an older model...

[Ikuzuh]

Shenmue 3 Ryo's face with Passport Ryo's hairstyle and adjusted coloration comparison #2:



So uhm...? This seems pretty good to me?

Now that's the Ryo I know and love, if those tweaks were made I'd be ecstatic. The hair is the main issue, Ryo's barnet should be black, with a waxed sheen with that OG feathered look. Good stuff Verderame!

Also remember guys there is also the possibility that Yu Suzuki originally intended the character models to look like these but due to hardware limitations of the time couldn't realise his vision until now.

Let's wait till Gamescom and see what's unveiled before getting all crazy.

[Verderame]

Ok, this is last time, i promise just a more complete comparison:

[Spaghetti]

That middle one really is best of both worlds IMO.

[Shenmue_Trilogy]

I have no idea who designing these characters but he/she needs some training in designing face features - not mistaken with overall modelling skills.
Shenhua is completly off - perhaps on purpose to make her look like a woman and less girly-like.For Ryos face you can clearly see in seconds what is wrong with his face. I hope these faces are based on an old build.
I made some changes in only 15 minutes using paint:

- Right eye direction
- jew and cheeks
- nose
- eyes and shadow under the eyes
- position of eyebrows
- eyebrows shape
- eyebrows color
etc.

[Spaghetti]

Sorry man, but Verderame has you beat by a country mile when it comes to tweaking the image of the model.

[Shenmue_Trilogy]

lol...as I expected. He just put the face from Shenmue Passport on the shenmue 3 face. I don't call this tweeking..but what ever...

[Verderame]

Exactly, the point here is that i didn't had to actually tweak anything (i am a gal anyway ), outside of the color balance

I think we can safely say at this point that the real culprit is just the generic and still not accurately modeled hairstyle.

That and maybe the a bit more deadlish-looking eyes...?

[Shenmue_Trilogy]

Another small tweek:

[johnvivant]

the Kiske render is best so far.

the ultimate test is seeing it in motion during the game. thats the proper overall context to assess.

[Spaghetti]

Well it's kind of a composite, and honestly? The result is pretty satisfying. I'm mostly happy with the model as it is now, but I wouldn't say no if YSnet decided to make tweaks that made the model end up looking like the composite.

Shenmue_Trilogy, I think your MS Paint one is kind of going in the opposite direction, and looks less like Ryo.

Overall the new model looks distinctly like Ryo for the most part. I think the issue might be the nose or length of the head. Or maybe just the eyes being a touch too big.

When I see the top of his head, I know that's Ryo.



It's the eyebrows and hairline that make him distinct.

When I see the bottom of the model, I know that's Ryo too.



It's the down-turned mouth and high cheekbones. Plus the bandage, but that's cheating.

Put them together and you've got the new model, but something isn't quite right even if it does undeniably actually look like Ryo when split. Playing with the jaw, cheeks, and brows like you have in your image just aren't addressing the problem, and so it's a step back. The eyes and nose might be the key though.

[Lan Di-sama]

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect something better than that when we're 2 years into development. Ryo looks OK, Shenhua looks less than OK. Need to see more before forming a full opinion, but I'm a little concerned - the E3 promo Shenhua looked like Shenhua, at least.