Orange Lightning wrote:I'm now convinced that David Hayter, despite this being his only really notable role, is one of the best voice actors in the biz. Notice the raspier, kind of tired sound to Snake's voice? That's a beutiful little piece of subtlety, there. This is an even better case of "aging" the character vocally than even Kevin Conroy did for Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond.
Hayter's a good voice actor, to be sure. But 'best in the business'? An accolade too far, perhaps? I liked how he's gone to the effort to make Snake sound older, that is a nice touch. Though it had to happen, really. While Hayter's good, I've found alot of his dialogue as Snake over the years sounding really shit and forced, as if Snake is putting on that voice.
For me, the only time he did a perfect performance for a whole game was the first time he did it. There's numerous parts in every game since (including the remake of MGS1) where he's obviously tried too hard to put the 'husky' voice on, and it's actually
sounded like Snake is putting a voice on (to my ear). His original portrayal of Snake is the most natural, and his best to date. So far so good for MGS4, though. He really nailed all the lines in the trailer brilliantly.
Orange Lightning wrote:And, hey, you knew it had to happen...
Vamp.
Cool shit.
Though Raiden's voice sounds a little cheesy. Sure, he only says one line, but it sounded a little too "forced" to me. Maybe it's just that one line, though.
Raiden's queer, anyway.
Orange Lightning wrote:Add to that that this is supposed to be a considerable amount of years in the future from MGS2, and it's not so strange that his voice would be a little raspier-sounding.
Not to be a cunt, but MGS4 takes place only six years after the end of MGS2. Says so in the trailer if you watch it carefully. Six years is no great amount of time. The only reason Snake appears decades older, is because he is a clone, and is experiencing accelerated degradation, or in other words- he's aging much too fast. It's a fault in the cloning process.
Remember a major reason why Liquid orchestrated the Shadow Moses incident, is because he knew about this, and needed Big Boss' remains to extract the DNA, and fix the error in the advanced genetic decomposition he and the genome soldiers were experiencing. Of course this is just a sub-plot to the master plot, which is that it was really the Patriots who were manipulating the whole affair.
Orange Lightning wrote:But like I said, it was only three whispered words. Nothing sufficient to judge it on, I'd say. But I thought it sounded distinctly like Ocelot's original voice actor.
That's because it
was Ocelot's original MGS1/MGS2 voice actor- Patric Zimmerman. Not Cam Clarke, who was the voice of Liquid. Personally, I'm overjoyed that Cam Clarke is not returning. This isn't because I think he's shit or anything. His absence means that one of my biggest problems with the way MGS2's storyline was executed shouldn't be present. Now, I can suspend my disbelief enough to allow for the idea that the severed arm of a sick criminal may alter or influence the personality and/or mind of the person it is attached to (in fact, there have been reported cases of this in real life).
However, to the point where the person's vocal chords
physically transform, and the structure of the throat and nasal passages change to
exactly replicate the voice of the severed-arm's previous owner..? No. That was so gay in MGS2 when Ocelot had Liquid's fucking voice. So,
so gay. It should have just been Ocelot 'not quite sounding himself', so to speak. So yeah, I'm glad Cam Clarke isn't back for MGS4, and that Patric Zimmerman is returning to his rightful role as Ocelot, albeit 'Liquid Ocelot'. Cam Clarke
was fantastic as Liquid, but Liquid was killed two games ago, and only his arm remains. There's no reason why his actual voice should ever be heard again, lest Liquid's body arises from the grave.
Sidenote; Revolver Ocelot = best character in the series? I fucking
love him! The way he's so complicated, and that you can never
really figure out who he's working for... really makes my cock hard. He's the thing that ties all the games together, too. He's the only character present who was alive and active during
all of the games. He didn't actually feature in MG and MG2, but he was obviously out and about doing his quadruple-crossing spy' jazz elswhere, during those games.
Plus, he's the son of the Boss and The Sorrow from MGS3 (he
is, it's alluded to several times within the game, and Kojima has stated that he is in interviews). So really, Ocelot kind of parallels Snake. Both of their parents were held the title of 'The Boss', and though Snake's link to Big Boss is that of clonage, and not actual natural parentage, the link is obviously the same in principal. They were both estranged from their parents, believing to have no parents (assuming Ocelot has no knowledge of his origins, which seems to be the case).
I reckon there might be a scene or two in MGS4 where Ocelot discovers who his mother was, which could make for an interesting emotional turn-around, seeing as he's effectively got the arm of the man who killed her attached to his body, and it was the people he's been working for all along (The Patriots, then called The Philosophers) who arranged to have her killed in the first place, and he has been working at the behest of the folks who have basically caused everything.
If this happens, I wonder how this will effect him. Will it make him turn against the hypocrisy which has caused every bad thing in the whole series to happen, or whether he won't care, or whether he knows who his parents were already, or whether Kojima will glaze over this potentially really cool plot point altogether. Needless to say, MGS4, plotwise, has the potential to be the best. Oh yeah, and Meryl's back. Lots of emotional arcs culminating at one final point. This game
should r0xx0rz.
The whole game sort of revolves around the pretense that Ocelot is possessed by Liquid. I predict that the end of the game might not necessarily be Snake killing Liquid Ocelot, but rather, the real Ocelot, who has become ever more repressed as Liquid had taken more and more of a hold on him over the last six years, the real Ocelot may somehow dispel Liquid from his mind. Drive him out, exorcist-style. Perhaps the revelation about the identity of his mother, and her eventual fate at the hands of Big Boss, at the whim of The Patriots, may be the trigger for Ocelot regaining his sanity, and sanctity over his mind once more.
I'd even go so far as predicting a scene where Ocelot removes the arm somehow, or maybe it gets damaged in battle. The latter being another possible trigger for the real Ocelot regaining control.
Can't wait!